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New 'hardcore' what does everyone else think.

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Brian K
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Posted - 2009/10/14 :  23:14:52  Show profile  Send a private message  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Mortis:
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Originally posted by snerkler:
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
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Does anyone else hate this new tripe and prefers the original stuff from around '97-'00 that i know and love, such as these...

Yes, alot of us.


I prefer 1991-1998. Have I said that before????? ;-)





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Posted - 2009/10/15 :  05:27:33  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit DJ Lawlzy's homepage  Reply with quote
Yeah, those tracks are pretty bad, imo. :/ Not what I would want to call 'proper.'

Two of them are from Clubland "X-treme Hardcore" 5, which explains a lot. Especially Walk on Water holy shit it's so bad.


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Posted - 2009/10/15 :  05:36:00  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit acidfluxxbass's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by DJ Lawlzy:
Yeah, those tracks are pretty bad, imo. :/ Not what I would want to call 'proper.'

Two of them are from Clubland "X-treme Hardcore" 5, which explains a lot. Especially Walk on Water holy shit it's so bad.



i think we need more Adrean!! !boom!whack!
Lawlzy, you did nsrenards artwork, right?





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Posted - 2009/10/15 :  07:25:15  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Vladel's homepage  Reply with quote
wonderful another hardcore is shit, bitch, moan, groan thread etc :(

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Posted - 2009/10/15 :  07:49:35  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Torpex's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by danthebangerboy:
I don't know if its just me, but all this new so called hardcore just sounds like over BPM'd donk and/or basshunter-flip n fill wound up to silly speeds, it makes me want to rage TBH.

You're wrong.

Yay for big red text, how about pink?

You're wrong.

Meh, not so good.

Aaaaanyway...

Two brands of albums you should definitely check out are Hardcore Underground and Crush On Hardcore - the former underpriced, the latter free. They showcase the full variety of today's UK hardcore and you will more than likely find something for yourself there!


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Edited by - Torpex on 2009/10/15 07:51:32
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Posted - 2009/10/15 :  08:37:12  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Triquatra's homepage  Reply with quote
i dont think he's that wrong at all...the massive majority of the tracks all do sound like that lol because everybodys trying to make it sound like everyone else.

hardcore underground 4 is going to be amazing - by the sounds of things, its full of songs that dont fit that mould :)



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Posted - 2009/10/15 :  08:54:33  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit snerkler's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by danthebangerboy:
I don't know if its just me, but all this new so called hardcore just sounds like over BPM'd donk and/or basshunter-flip n fill wound up to silly speeds, it makes me want to rage TBH.

IMO, its of similar BPM, but it is nothing like what i call 'proper' hardcore.

Some of it has the classic elements in there, female vocal, piano melodies etc, but then someone seems to have gone bananas on the synths and gave it a horrible beat and made it go wrong.

Its this sort of stuff i hate...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=An533q2MD5Q&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0R-Wh9HKXD0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2G7BmJ34Pw&feature=related


Does anyone else hate this new tripe and prefers the original stuff from around '97-'00 that i know and love, such as these...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbOipT3RIqo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1EzPirqRy8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkRfFn5gdwU


So, am i alone in despising these new attempts that i like to call shitcore, or am i just living in the past lol.



Just got around to listening to the tracks you posted, and have to agree those first 3 are hideous. However, you have also posted 2 horrible mixes; That love of my life remix is horrible the original and juicy cuts remix are much better. Also the 2 versions of Shooting Star on the original vinyl are much better than the one you posted, sorry.







Even though I'm oldschool and prefer Hardcore and Happy Hardcore from 1991-1998 there have still been great tracks in the past few years, you just have to look a lot harder and sift through the endless crap. Here's a few quality and happy tracks that I like that's been released over the past few years.
Listen to this a couple of times and if you don't think it's an absolute belter there's something wrong with you ;-)



This one is extremely happy, another great track



Others well worth a listen are:-
Getting Better
Draw to you (I prefer the original to the CUBE:Hard mix)
Slide Away
Heatbeat
Dance (recon remix)
Making me wann dance (original, not the crap sy and unknown mix)

P.S. Sorry about all the youtube links, got to work early and had time to kill ;-)


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Posted - 2009/10/15 :  12:34:20  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Meathead's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by danthebangerboy:
New 'hardcore' what does everyone else think.



I think it has a shocking amount of discussion around it. It's probably the 2nd most discussed topic after "who misses the old hardcore". But do continue with the chat


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Posted - 2009/10/15 :  12:42:42  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Starstruck's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Torpex:
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Originally posted by danthebangerboy:
I don't know if its just me, but all this new so called hardcore just sounds like over BPM'd donk and/or basshunter-flip n fill wound up to silly speeds, it makes me want to rage TBH.

how about pink?

You're wrong.



It's not Pink, It's Salmon!



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Posted - 2009/10/15 :  14:47:49  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit acidfluxxbass's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Starstruck:
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Originally posted by Torpex:
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Originally posted by danthebangerboy:
I don't know if its just me, but all this new so called hardcore just sounds like over BPM'd donk and/or basshunter-flip n fill wound up to silly speeds, it makes me want to rage TBH.

how about pink?

You're wrong.



It's not Pink, It's Salmon!





It's not Salmon! Its uncooked Kielbasa Sausage!


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Posted - 2009/10/15 :  19:29:31  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit DJ Lawlzy's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
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Originally posted by DJ Lawlzy:
Yeah, those tracks are pretty bad, imo. :/ Not what I would want to call 'proper.'

Two of them are from Clubland "X-treme Hardcore" 5, which explains a lot. Especially Walk on Water holy shit it's so bad.



i think we need more Adrean!! !boom!whack!
Lawlzy, you did nsrenards artwork, right?







I did some of the covers but not that one in particular, that was done by Squeedgemonster.


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Posted - 2009/10/15 :  19:50:11  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit acidfluxxbass's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by DJ Lawlzy:
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Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
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Originally posted by DJ Lawlzy:
Yeah, those tracks are pretty bad, imo. :/ Not what I would want to call 'proper.'

Two of them are from Clubland "X-treme Hardcore" 5, which explains a lot. Especially Walk on Water holy shit it's so bad.



i think we need more Adrean!! !boom!whack!
Lawlzy, you did nsrenards artwork, right?







I did some of the covers but not that one in particular, that was done by Squeedgemonster.



ahh klkl
i take it you did the transgender nurse fox?


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Posted - 2009/10/15 :  20:02:42  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit DJ Lawlzy's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
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Originally posted by DJ Lawlzy:
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Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
quote:
Originally posted by DJ Lawlzy:
Yeah, those tracks are pretty bad, imo. :/ Not what I would want to call 'proper.'

Two of them are from Clubland "X-treme Hardcore" 5, which explains a lot. Especially Walk on Water holy shit it's so bad.



i think we need more Adrean!! !boom!whack!
Lawlzy, you did nsrenards artwork, right?







I did some of the covers but not that one in particular, that was done by Squeedgemonster.



ahh klkl
i take it you did the transgender nurse fox?



The last cover of his nurse Renard character I drew was for

Also, his character is genderless now.


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Posted - 2009/10/15 :  20:23:29  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit rosin007's homepage  Reply with quote
CXH5 was mostly shit, but I like a few tracks and the Walk on water track was ace.

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Posted - 2009/10/15 :  20:32:32  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit MAtRiCks's homepage  Reply with quote
I like modern Clubcore, and the 3 tracks mentionned in the first post. Music I Love stands out as clearly amazing though, and I can attest it is a major dancefloor shaker.

As other already said, if the commercial side of Hardcore isn't your cup of tea, I think you should explore other facets or the music instead of complaining about it.

These old tracks you posted are amazing as well, except for the Unique mix of Shooting Star. It is time to move on though, these overplayed anthems had their time to shine, and I rather explore some new music.

Lawlzy: l'm liking the music you post, but I could do without the furries :P


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