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djDMS
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 Posted - 2011/06/18 : 23:39:00
When i was a young lad back in the 1870's, music was a thing of wonder, of mystery.... tunes were elusive, almost magical due to their rarity and difficulty to get hold of - and that was providing you could identify them. I can remember waiting months, even years to find out the identity of tunes i'd heard played at raves or on tapes from events. If i was lucky, i'd stumble upon an I.D. by accident, through word of mouth (or by bugging the DJ), or be fortunate enough to find a song by accident while ploughing through lots of lovely vinyl during my weekly tour of the record shops.
Move forward a few years and now i'm battered by the constant amount of brand spanking new stuff that's thrown at me left, right and centre. Tracks are available to hear before they're finished - let alone played anywhere! Gone are the days when you had to leave the comfort of your bedroom to have access to all the goodness (and indeed shite) that's available. No anticipation, no build up, no excitement?
I used to love raving as much for hearing new tunes as i did for the overall experience, and now that's been taken away from me - all you need now is an hour on Soundcloud or Facebook before you go out and the element of surprise is gone.
So, can (or does) the 'instant' nature of music do any harm nowadays? Knowing what a tune is helps to build up a buzz before release, but can it also take away the fun and satisfaction of tracking it down without help?
Your thoughts boys and (hopefully but doubtfully) girls?
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Triquatra
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Posted - 2011/06/19 : 00:13:34
I agree with all your thoughts
one of my favourite things is having loads of time on my hands, and a record store with massive sale section and a turntable next to it - so many tracks to get through that arent available digitally (so the element of surprise is still there!)
i'm still coming across songs I'd needed id'd from the 90s!
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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2011/06/19 : 01:38:23
I used to love hearing new tunes from tape packs and not knowing what they were. Having mystery tunes that were really really good was always a good thing, and still is but could never really happen these days. Never really thought about it though 'til you said it! There is equal positives though of course from a labels point of view. If people don't know what a song is, then no matter how good it is, they can't buy it.
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Mortis
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Posted - 2011/06/19 : 02:06:24
I used to love hearing new tracks, it was a rare thing to hear or find some gem that no one else had found. Now every single time I check out trackitdown I'm inundated with shite. The shear amount of new releases these days has rendered the "classic" no existent. As a DJ the preasure to play new tracks all the time is overwhelming, so much so that the scene will end up having no "anthems" (like it used to) and merley floorfillers in every set.
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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2011/06/19 : 02:17:20
That ship sailed years ago lol. I'm not even being biased now either, it's genuinly the case.
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Mortis
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Posted - 2011/06/19 : 02:25:27
Tell me about it 
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Brian K
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Posted - 2011/06/19 : 05:42:57
I stopped trying to play the upfront stuff all the time years ago. At that point it seemed like most everyone was trying to do it so I opted with turning the dial back a couple years and dropping unknowns.
It had gotten to the point where when I would go out I would know and or own every single track being played. Seriously drained some of the excitment out of it. I mean I still had fun going out but it was like listening to a top 40 dj on the radio.
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Samination
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Posted - 2011/06/19 : 09:04:22
there was always the option to buy stuff from IMOdownload. Even before it became riddle with shit (pre-2006), there where alot of lesser known/unknown that releases good tracks.
Futurity
OB Oulton
The Punkstarz
Chemical Mixture
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acidfluxxbass
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Posted - 2011/06/19 : 09:08:15
I think that having songs that are rare and hold an element of mystery is always good. A number of rare tracks hold a degree of nostalgia with me, and thats a trait easy-to-find or commercial music cant provide.
Youtube makes it very easy, but at the same time, I appreciate it, more than disagree with it.
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Smoogie
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Posted - 2011/06/19 : 09:09:23
Bournemouth had Avid Records, now it is some trendy cafe
I listen to tunes in live sets as a download ripped from tape and sometimes it will take me a long time to find out what tune is which. I have been very lucky and found out a few classics but unless there is no tracklist provided I have no idea unless I proviode a 30 second sound clip online and ask around which dosnt always help lol
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silver
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Posted - 2011/06/19 : 09:15:08
Yes and no...
I love pizza but if I eat it every day I most likely would hate it.... but then again I get to eat pizza every day... then would I love it if I ate it everyday.... *repeat*
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ultraskool
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 Posted - 2011/06/19 : 13:21:10
DMS> You were ALIVE?? in the 1870's??? ROTFL!!! I doubt it man, I don't think they produced HHC that century!!? C'mon guys(and girls) I can't believe no-one picked that up! Where are the Mod's? maybe they must be still dreaming about the good old HappyHardcore days when yes, Music was So Wonderful.. was that DJ Vibes in 1996?
anyways, yeah, Music was often more well produced because it was thought out more, more originality of thought. Force and Styles tunes from the OldSkool Days, for example.
Even though there was 'less' technology but music was made from the heart.
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When i was a young lad back in the 1870's??, music was a thing of wonder,
Your thoughts boys and (hopefully but doubtfully) girls?
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Samination
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Posted - 2011/06/19 : 14:10:01
I buy what I like, no matter how rare (well not too expensive :P) they are. I can see how making music "untitled" as on tapepacks might spur people to listen more, but as Matt said, if people know the title and where it was released, it would help sell more.
As long as there's a moderate amount of tracks, I'd rather see easily buy-able tracks, compared to rarities.
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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2011/06/19 : 14:26:29
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DMS> You were ALIVE?? in the 1870's??? ROTFL!!! I doubt it man, I don't think they produced HHC that century!!? C'mon guys(and girls) I can't believe no-one picked that up!
That joke was well and truly lost on you wasn't it? :P
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acidfluxxbass
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Posted - 2011/06/19 : 14:51:39
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
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DMS> You were ALIVE?? in the 1870's??? ROTFL!!! I doubt it man, I don't think they produced HHC that century!!? C'mon guys(and girls) I can't believe no-one picked that up!
That joke was well and truly lost on you wasn't it? :P
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warped_candykid
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Posted - 2011/06/19 : 20:55:51
Well, I think the amount of new material is being pushed too much. Promoters need to slow it down a bit and let their future tracks be played for a while before a release, instead of the track coming out the day it's played. It's like the movie business nowdays. Why pay $9 for a movie ticket and $13 for a large popcorn with the 3-in-1 oil they call butter on it and a large cherry coke (if you use the "Couple's Combo" that is, $16 if you're single) when you can just wait 3 weeks and get it on DVD for $19.99?
But in all seriousness, I'm gonna cycle back to the cd issue, it would be great if we still had a cd release twice a year to capture all the tracks upcoming, and tracks that have made anthem status, but, like others have said, those days are seeming to come less about now due to the current push to slap every song made on Soundcloud and other sites. I like being able to pick up a cd and hearing a song that's upcoming release, or has recently been released.
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