Quicksilver Advanced Member
Sweden
2,545 posts Joined: Jul, 2007
Posted - 2010/03/09 : 20:53:53
There are endless chord progressions and lead patterns, there's no reason one needs to blatantly copy another riff unless he lacks imagination.
I think, since they're buddies, Squad-E intentionally borrowed Re-Con's riff from Getting Better, and the Kick Your Legs/Baby I'll Let You Know are purely coincidental.
Dogsy Average Member
United Kingdom
212 posts Joined: Oct, 2008
Posted - 2010/03/11 : 13:03:20
quote:Originally posted by DJ Lawlzy:
A lot of musicians/composers copy riffs from previous works, so it's not surprising to hear it in Hardcore. Also what Dain-Ja said about there only being so many progressions / patterns.
I heard a hardcore track last year that had the same riff from Skydivin' and I noticed it right away :S found that amusing.. I wish I could remember what it was.
Hmm Phenex- Angels in my head? I love that tune it does remind me of something!
DJ Lawlzy Advanced Member
Canada
520 posts Joined: Oct, 2007
Posted - 2010/03/11 : 14:46:32
quote:Originally posted by Dogsy:
quote:Originally posted by DJ Lawlzy:
A lot of musicians/composers copy riffs from previous works, so it's not surprising to hear it in Hardcore. Also what Dain-Ja said about there only being so many progressions / patterns.
I heard a hardcore track last year that had the same riff from Skydivin' and I noticed it right away :S found that amusing.. I wish I could remember what it was.
Hmm Phenex- Angels in my head? I love that tune it does remind me of something!
That does sound similar, but that's not that one I was thinking of :( Hm, if I figure it out I'll post it. I only remember it having vocals and me not liking it. :P
Rayovac Advanced Member
United States
2,049 posts Joined: Jan, 2008
Posted - 2010/03/11 : 18:42:33
Isn't the melody in Marc Smith & Gammer - Pump This Party from a Bomberman game? Or is my memory playing tricks on me again?
Seriously, it sounds so familiar! Ugh!
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Triquatra Moderator
United Kingdom
12,640 posts Joined: Nov, 2003
Posted - 2010/03/11 : 19:39:50
quote:Originally posted by Vitalism:
Sharkey - today's the day
Seventh City - Eamon Breaks
(both of which i believe copied some trance tune whose name escapes me atm)
Solarstone - Seven Citys, though i prefer the chillout/ambient remix :)
though OP - it does beg the question - what if the song they "ripped" has just a riff in it - just makes it a cover version/rip all the same as if they didnt use the co
Dain-Ja Advanced Member
Canada
1,983 posts Joined: Oct, 2004
Posted - 2010/03/11 : 20:35:20
quote:Originally posted by Quicksilver:
There are endless chord progressions and lead patterns, there's no reason one needs to blatantly copy another riff unless he lacks imagination.
I think, since they're buddies, Squad-E intentionally borrowed Re-Con's riff from Getting Better, and the Kick Your Legs/Baby I'll Let You Know are purely coincidental.
There might be a lot of chord progressions but it's hard to find *good* ones that haven't been used, in a key where bass sounds good at hardcore speed.
There aren't really endless lead patterns for an offbeat bass track. There's a lot of possibilities but the most effective ones are the most current in modern hardcore (16th notes).
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Dogsy Average Member
United Kingdom
212 posts Joined: Oct, 2008
Posted - 2010/03/12 : 00:07:24
quote:Originally posted by DJ Lawlzy:
quote:Originally posted by Dogsy:
quote:Originally posted by DJ Lawlzy:
A lot of musicians/composers copy riffs from previous works, so it's not surprising to hear it in Hardcore. Also what Dain-Ja said about there only being so many progressions / patterns.
I heard a hardcore track last year that had the same riff from Skydivin' and I noticed it right away :S found that amusing.. I wish I could remember what it was.
Hmm Phenex- Angels in my head? I love that tune it does remind me of something!
That does sound similar, but that's not that one I was thinking of :( Hm, if I figure it out I'll post it. I only remember it having vocals and me not liking it. :P
actually I rekon Angels in my head sounds alot more like save me. Also Darwin 'summer of love' reminds me of 'through the darkness'
Quicksilver Advanced Member
Sweden
2,545 posts Joined: Jul, 2007
Posted - 2010/04/10 : 15:19:00
Jess & Spenno - Find Your Way (Styles & Breeze Remix (and in a way the Modulate & Petruccio one)) + Styles & Breeze - Come With Me (Unique Mix)! :D
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MAtRiCks Advanced Member
Canada
1,059 posts Joined: Sep, 2006
Posted - 2010/04/10 : 15:43:50
quote:Originally posted by Quicksilver:
Jess & Spenno - Find Your Way (Styles & Breeze Remix (and in a way the Modulate & Petruccio one)) + Styles & Breeze - Come With Me (Unique Mix)! :D
QFT, I couldn't hear past the resemblance when Come With Me first came out... I still love both tunes to deat, and I like that FInd Your Way is more on the melancholic side while Come With Me is plain happiness.
catlikethief Average Member
United States
162 posts Joined: Mar, 2010
Posted - 2010/04/10 : 16:49:58
You have to remember that a simple appregio shouldn't be considered copying.
There are some blatant rips though, but oh well.
As for the debate that hardcore stifles creativity, that's bollocks. You don't have to do anything to stick to any formula. Most producers are just not mature enough to move into more advanced forward thinking things, and by the time they do they usually have started making a different genre... or god forbid... minimal techno...
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Phenex Advanced Member
Sweden
1,619 posts Joined: Nov, 2006
Posted - 2010/04/16 : 22:11:56
I hear that a lot about Angels In My Head. It seems to remind people of something, but nobody can ever put their finger on it. I for one can't remember whether it was based off of anything else, but I think it wasn't. Would be fun if someone could finally put their finger on it though! :P
Revs Advanced Member
Austria
2,584 posts Joined: Oct, 2008
Posted - 2010/04/17 : 13:15:42
I think "Hardcore Nation" by Darwin and.. Stu Allan (?) copied the riff from "21st century rush" from Gammer I think. Anyone knows when that 21st century rush tune is going to be released? It's wicked :)
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