Fluffbomb Senior Member
United Kingdom
257 posts Joined: Oct, 2006
Posted - 2009/03/12 : 12:13:55
quote:Originally posted by catjam:
and i dont think gabba & happy gabba was ever that popular in england
so even back then you probably wouldn`t have herd much of it at raves.
Certainly in the UK main arenas it wasn't played very often. Maybe the odd tune here and there that was around Happy Hardcore tempo. Brisk was about the only big name who'd regularly play harder and faster stuff in the main arena IIRC.
material like this always gets played in like the 2nd or 3rd room at most uk hardcore events at oxygen summer slam in bristol last summer producer did a set b2b with scorpio in the main room and it went off BIGTIME so i'd say a track like this one would probably go down very well.
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catjam Senior Member
United Kingdom
407 posts Joined: Oct, 2008
Posted - 2009/03/12 : 17:38:59
quote:Originally posted by Fluffbomb:
quote:Originally posted by catjam:
and i dont think gabba & happy gabba was ever that popular in england
so even back then you probably wouldn`t have herd much of it at raves.
Certainly in the UK main arenas it wasn't played very often. Maybe the odd tune here and there that was around Happy Hardcore tempo. Brisk was about the only big name who'd regularly play harder and faster stuff in the main arena IIRC.
Thats true mate..but here in scotland it was the opposite gabba was always in the main arenas
lenny dee..paul elstack...loft groover...bass generator...scott brown etc
And when Happyhardcore started to get more popular here is actually when the scene
started to die out....which was sad
I remember a lot of dj`s from all over the uk and in europe (especially holland)
all said they felt the impact of the scottish scene fading
it kind of snowballed and affected the rave scene in other countries as well...
Smoogie Advanced Member
United Kingdom
6,504 posts Joined: Mar, 2006
Posted - 2009/03/12 : 17:51:53
quote:Originally posted by catjam:
I remember a lot of dj`s from all over the uk and in europe (especially holland)
all said they felt the impact of the scottish scene fading
it kind of snowballed and affected the rave scene in other countries as well...
I notice a massive drop in the number of quility Bouncy Techno & (Happy) Gabber tunea after 1997 in countries such as The Netherlands, Italy & the United States after 1997. Pengo went in 1997 as did Bass Generator Records
Excalibur Junior Member
United States
107 posts Joined: Aug, 2004
Posted - 2009/03/12 : 19:08:28
quote:Originally posted by lozowen:
material like this always gets played in like the 2nd or 3rd room at most uk hardcore events
at oxygen summer slam in bristol last summer producer did a set b2b with scorpio in the main room and it went off BIGTIME so i'd say a track like this one would probably go down very well.
Oh that's nice to hear I just wish Lolicore was easier to find. Of course this track is a bit too tame for what they play on Otakuspeed and raves it'd be a nice starter though.
allmenarepirates Junior Member
United States
96 posts Joined: Mar, 2009
Posted - 2009/03/19 : 05:12:13
this one's posted on my my myspace. i'm not disappointed as long as there's happycore, though. all in all happy about dreamhard. don't tell the trolls.
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quote:Originally posted by C Cell:
I imagine long-time hardcore fans would have fun and dance to it.
Younger folks would go WTF and leave.
Just to address all the people that have been saying the "young ones" can't stand actual Old Skool Hardcore / Happy Hardcore; I agree that it is true for many younger "hardcore fans" [read: Freeform Fans], but I am what you would call young and I STARTED with Old Skool when I was only 13. (Bananaman, Vinylgroover, Wishdokta, Visa, Anabolic Frolic, and classic Hixxy come to mind) I never really got into Freeform until awhile after that. I still crave that bouncy bass and those slammin' piano riffs on a daily basis. :p So don't be so quick to dismiss younger hardcore fans!
...this will likely come across as much harsher than intended.
nrXic Junior Member
Canada
117 posts Joined: Feb, 2002
Posted - 2009/04/08 : 09:50:36
quote:Originally posted by Trimms:
UK Hardcore is way harder than this "HARDcore." This is the weakest gabber kick I've heard, it has no thump, no bass, and no real thunder to it. Clubland would destroy this in terms of both intensity and power. No offense to your love for old skool or anything, but this is just not one of your signature YouTube tunes that I appreciate.
Production was much simpler back then. For what we know it was a distorted 909 tracked on an Amiga. No extra bass, no extra thump with a layered kick...but you have it admit it's all rawk. BOEM BOEM BOEM instead of Thump Thump Thump
HHC isn't all about melody, to me it's about melody juxtaposed against rough sounding stuff. It could be other things to others...but I think we can all agree that 170+ bpm with heavy/distorted beats are part of its more unique elements. Many people find it disappointing that "Clubland" stuff is losing it's rough/crazy/extreme edge.
There's room for everything in the umbrella of Hardcore music, but I think what's being pointed out by Smoogie is the fact that the HARD stuff is being pushed into a corner unappreciated. You yourself said you can't appreciate the tune...and that's just proof of what Smoogie is talking about.
ferocious New Member
United Kingdom
74 posts Joined: Nov, 2005
Posted - 2009/04/08 : 14:53:07
They weren't exactly caining that stuff large at the big raves south of England especially when they had a shared hybrid room with jungle so they'd of run anyway (Club Kinetic was playing it though).
You can listen to old Helter Skelter tapes and hear zero of that, as after all it wasn't the sound they were built on. There was like only six 4/4 (Scottish/Dutch) played out of 5-packs (60+ hours). Most of it was local English productions being spun. All English DJs.
Rez, FUBAR, Judgement Day etc in Scotland, NE England was the place for all that. There's no way the majority of the English on the go today are going to make that sort of stuff. The market has come from the club domain.
Scott Brown still plays - was just playing in Netherlands this/his style last month - it but sadly seems uninterested in making anything new. Technically the UK hardcore is an evolution of it anyhow as Brown was behind both.
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