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jenks
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 Posted - 2007/02/16 : 13:12:43
UNICEF rankings for well-being of children in the industrialised world.
1. Netherlands 4.2 (10 2 6 3 3 1)
2. Sweden 5.0 (1 1 5 15 1 7)
3. Denmark 7.2 (4 4 8 9 6 12)
4. Finland 7.5 (3 3 4 17 7 11)
5. Spain 8.0 (12 6 15 8 5 2)
6. Switzerland 8.3 (5 9 14 4 12 6)
7. Norway 8.7 (2 8 11 10 13 8)
8. Italy 10.0 (14 5 20 1 10 10)
9. Ireland 10.2 (19 19 7 7 4 5)
10. Belgium 10.7 (7 16 1 5 19 16)
11. Germany 11.2 (13 11 10 13 11 9)
12. Canada 11.8 (6 13 2 18 17 15)
13. Greece 11.8 (15 18 16 11 8 3)
14. Poland 12.3 (21 15 3 14 2 19)
15. Czech Republic 12.5 (11 10 9 19 9 17)
16. France 13.0 (9 7 18 12 14 18)
17. Portugal 13.7 (16 14 21 2 15 14)
18. Austria 13.8 (8 20 19 16 16 4)
19. Hungary 14.5 (20 17 13 6 18 13)
20. United States 18.0 (17 21 12 20 20 )
21. United Kingdom 18.2 (18 12 17 21 21 20)
In other words the UK is the worst first world country to grow up in, although some of the statistics are very misleading, especially the way poverty is calculated...
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Posted - 2007/02/16 : 14:08:39
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Originally posted by DarrenJ:
Just wish to add my comment about the debate of Australia (which is offtopic anyway)
while sydney has its problems, it doesnt reflect the whole of australia and the workings of multiculturalism
Im happy enough with the system in my state and people get along, while there are rivalrys between, lebonese and some radical "Anglo-Saxons", silly sporting rivalrys with yugoslavian kids, and odd asian gang in richer area's.
Really is a nice place and 99.99% of people get along, in my programming class we have a polish lady, japanese lady, malaysian man, african lady, and 3 local youth (inc. myself)
really things are pretty peachy
cool. where u from dude?
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UNICEF rankings for well-being of children in the industrialised world.
that list seems to be pretty exclusive to europe and america. i would hardly call japan and australia developing/underdeveloped/woteva-politically-correct-term-for-3rd-world-is countries
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nearly in line....
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Posted - 2007/02/16 : 22:48:13
Offtopic comments:
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Originally posted by jenks:
UNICEF rankings for well-being of children in the industrialised world.
4. Finland 7.5 (3 3 4 17 7 11)
I was surprised to see that on BBC, since I know waay too many youths that aren't "well-being". Finland has one of the worlds highest suicide rates (13th place according to wikipedia), so I don't really know what to think.
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Originally posted by bent_bananna:
You've gotta be ugly, boring and have a serious chip on your shoulder though
In politics your looks and profession doesnt matter that much. There arent that much requirmenst. We had a politician who was a pro boxer, accidentally shot himself when he was in finnish parliament and in 2006 he was involuntarily committed to a mental hospital :D
Ahh, "The Viking" 
But in my opinion the old picture of politicians being in fine suits (that talk so much people get tired) should be renewed. Let politicians be humans and say what they have to say without being afraid of the press or criticism.
Politicians hardly accept that immigrants might be a problem, and say it is very good for the country (while they might be thinking it is doing harm for the country).
Sure it is good for the country's image, but what do the inhabitants of that country feel when their tax money goes to people who don't bother getting into the society? (generalizing)
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charlieee
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Posted - 2007/02/17 : 01:25:18
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sorry if i caused offence dude i no there are def problems esp in houso areas especially out in dubbo but in my experience these problems are not to severe simply coz the aussies are so bogan that they cbf doin anything destructive. wot i was tryin to say is reflected in the cronulla riots - how they started, the senseless bashing of the people in the train and on the beach, and the revenge attacks, which in particular seemed ridiculously over the top just by the amount of damage caused. im sure u would agree that it was a key example of society gone wrong and that no party was without blame except for asians maybe. wot i got particualarly annoyed about was the premiers inablilty to do anyhting about it. while i live in the shire i have gone to skool in hurstville most of my life and have more than my share of non-skip friends - asian mediterrainian and lebanese.
Btw i am fully aware of where aus would be if the immigration policy wasnt put in place
i also believe that assimilation would be much more effective if there was not so much segregation btw ppl groups
nah it's ok man, but yeh the crounulla riots was started by some stupid muslim leb i think and because of that all medeterainians/ and arabs got the point from the aus side i guess, even though they were muslim ect.
but yeh i think that the lebs/wogs can b just as bad as some lads.
yeh the assimilation didnt really work out to gud in some parts of aus but in others it seems fine.
it's really just some stupid teenagers who think that they are cool ect
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The Doc
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Posted - 2007/02/17 : 02:17:50
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Originally posted by jenks:
UNICEF rankings for well-being of children in the industrialised world.
1. Netherlands 4.2 (10 2 6 3 3 1)
2. Sweden 5.0 (1 1 5 15 1 7)
3. Denmark 7.2 (4 4 8 9 6 12)
4. Finland 7.5 (3 3 4 17 7 11)
5. Spain 8.0 (12 6 15 8 5 2)
6. Switzerland 8.3 (5 9 14 4 12 6)
7. Norway 8.7 (2 8 11 10 13 8)
8. Italy 10.0 (14 5 20 1 10 10)
9. Ireland 10.2 (19 19 7 7 4 5)
10. Belgium 10.7 (7 16 1 5 19 16)
11. Germany 11.2 (13 11 10 13 11 9)
12. Canada 11.8 (6 13 2 18 17 15)
13. Greece 11.8 (15 18 16 11 8 3)
14. Poland 12.3 (21 15 3 14 2 19)
15. Czech Republic 12.5 (11 10 9 19 9 17)
16. France 13.0 (9 7 18 12 14 18)
17. Portugal 13.7 (16 14 21 2 15 14)
18. Austria 13.8 (8 20 19 16 16 4)
19. Hungary 14.5 (20 17 13 6 18 13)
20. United States 18.0 (17 21 12 20 20 )
21. United Kingdom 18.2 (18 12 17 21 21 20)
In other words the UK is the worst first world country to grow up in, although some of the statistics are very misleading, especially the way poverty is calculated...
Must be all the Gabba influence! (see what u get when u listen to Clubland!)
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Posted - 2007/02/17 : 02:20:18
anyway like i said before my coment on the Uk is coming! and u lot are part of the problem!
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kathryn
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Posted - 2007/02/23 : 10:19:03
Tony Blair messed up BIG style cos his nose was so far up BUSH'S ASS!
Unspoken truth behind Blair interview
Last Updated: 1:59am GMT 23/02/2007
The Prime Minister appeared to be in denial in his Today interview, insisting that the withdrawal of British troops from Iraq was not an admission of failure but a sign that its fledgling democracy was growing stronger.
What really lay behind those answers? Here we analyse key moments in the interview and reveal what remained pointedly unspoken.
• 1 Mr Blair said: "I don't think we should be apologising because we're not causing the terrorism. And 80-90 per cent of that violence is in or around Baghdad."
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What he did not say: It's not British but US forces who are patrolling Baghdad who are much more unpopular.
• 2 Mr Blair said that the "principal reason" there was a problem in Iraq was because internal and external extremists were creating one.
What he did not say: The militias carrying out the killings could not have existed under Saddam.
• 3 Mr Blair said that he was immensely proud of the work Britain had done to "help Iraq get on its feet."
What he did not say: Estimates of Iraqi casualties range from 150,000 to 650,000 with more than two million people fleeing the country.
• 4 Mr Blair, criticised over the failure to put anyone in charge of security after the liberation, said the Iraqi police force and army had to be abolished as "an instrument of Saddam's dictatorship."
What he did not say: It took far too long to replace them.
• 5 Mr Blair said troops would stay as long as they were required by the Iraqi people.
What he did not say: An opinion poll cited by senior Democrat and Republicans in Washington showed 61 per cent of Iraqis favoured armed attacks on coalition forces.
• 6 Mr Blair refused to say whether he might have to reverse the withdrawal and send more troops to Basra. He said: "I don't want to get into speculating about that."
What he could not say: It would be political disaster to even countenance it.
• 7 Mr Blair rejected the notion that Iraq aided recruitment of suicide bombers, saying extremists previously used Kosovo, Palestine and Kashmir as justification for terrorism.
What he did not say: his own focus groups show that most voters think suicide bombers have come to Britain because of Iraq.
• 8 Asked if the world was less evil, he said: "I am proud of the interventions we have made in removing dictatorships from Kosovo, Sierra Leone, Afghanistan and Iraq."
What he did not say: How does this square with my prediction after one month as Prime Minister: "Mine is the first generation able to contemplate the possibility that we may live without going to war or sending our children to war."
• 9 Challenged about the validity of Britain's global interventions, he said: "It was a very serious debate in the country as it affects our relationships with America and the EU. My view is you cannot isolate or disengage. In some cases you have to be prepared to intervene in different parts of the world.
What he did not say: his special relationship with George Bush has left his relationship with the EU in tatters and made a mockery of his pledges to put Britain back at the heart of Europe.
• 10 Mr Blair lavished praise on Britain's "magnificent" armed forces.
What he did not say: 180 British soldiers have died in Afghanistan and Iraq.
• 11 Challenged on whether there should be an inquiry into the decisions surrounding the war and its aftermath he said he was content to be subject, "at an appropriate moment, to an inquiry".
What he did not say: It should take place long after he has left office.
(You see this is why Tony Blair should go NOW!)
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Posted - 2007/02/23 : 20:38:47
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Originally posted by kathryn:
(You see this is why Tony Blair should go NOW!)
But who should replace him?
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Posted - 2007/02/23 : 20:45:58
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Originally posted by jenks:
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Originally posted by kathryn:
(You see this is why Tony Blair should go NOW!)
But who should replace him?
Gordon Brown
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jenks
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Posted - 2007/02/23 : 21:01:06
People will soon be wishing Tony B was back once Brown takes over...
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Posted - 2007/02/25 : 14:38:16
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Originally posted by jenks:
People will soon be wishing Tony B was back once Brown takes over...
Why?
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Posted - 2007/02/25 : 14:52:13
its funny how this topic is about what we think of our country and most of it is about immigrants. What about the ******** smoking law, shit public transport, getting taxed out of our balls, our celebrity culture and gangs
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jenks
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Posted - 2007/02/25 : 14:57:35
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Originally posted by kathryn:
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Originally posted by jenks:
People will soon be wishing Tony B was back once Brown takes over...
Why?
Because he's probably the best politician we've had for years and years, you can pick faults with him like anyone else. Brown has no charasima, David Cameron will rip him to bits.
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Posted - 2007/02/25 : 15:26:47
I normally stear clear of threads like this, but I thought I'd comment.
Personally I don't give a flying f*ck about this country anymore. At one time I was proud to be English, but now the place is such a f*cking joke that it's embarrassing. At the end of the day the country is in decline, and if people's attitudes don't change then we'll end up a third world country.
It's all f*cked up, no one cares about me so why should I care about them?
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Posted - 2007/02/25 : 17:03:05
Whilst the country does have its bad points, so do most countries! Believe it or not we have a great work culture (those of us who aren't on the infamous unemployment list). In the UK we have a typical 37 hour working week, and the Working Time Directive states we shouldn't work more than 48 hours a week (not sure if this is aross the board, but our company takes that as bein an average over 3 months). You can sign out of this directive though. So anyway, in the UK only 11% of people work more than 48 hours a week. Compare this to the States, and its 25%. Oz has the figures in at 33%, whilst Japan is at 36%! To put it into context, I occaisionally work 48 a week, and its 7.30-6.00 4 days a week, and 7.30-5.00 on Friday (if you do your sums we get 42 min knocked off for lunch) - its bloody knackering!
This is pretty much a standard week for my colleagues in the states.
Then theres the Holiday situation. Typically we get 25 days holiday (2 days for every month and 3 in December) in the UK. In the US they get between 6-13, although some senior roles get up to 4 weeks IF they are lucky.
On top of that, in the US you have to pay for all your healthcare (or take out health insurance). Theres no NHS. OK, so the NHS isn't all that great, but its free (well, we pay taxes for it).
Actually, I'm in 2 minds about the NHS and the benefit system. It makes life too easy for those unemployed that they can't be bothered getting work. Yes, yes I know the deal, there aren't any jobs etc etc, but I've never had a problem getting a job. Last time I needed some cash I walked round my local town and had been offered 3 jobs by lunchtime. 1 in a bar, one in a club and another in a shop. This was all without any experience in these areas. If there was no benefits system then it'd be amazing how unemployment would drop!
BTW I'm not having a pop at anybody on here who relies on benefits genuinely.
So anyway, good points and bad points to this country, as with all countries - and I didn't even mention the gun culture in America!
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