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Rapid Bass
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 Posted - 2005/07/19 : 11:51:47
I'm probably goin to ruffle a stack of feathers and sound like a complete whinger with this, but why is smoking still permitted in clubs and raves. Why is it legal at all? Now i hear you all say 'cause the government gets loads of tax revenue from it'. This maybe true, but they lose 10 time as much paying for the health costs. I hate the smell of clothes after a night out, have no problem with people doing pills or speed cause it does't effect anyone elses health. But all these people who smoke in clubs are selfish if you ask me and don't care about the health of anyone else. People who smoke should be made to smoke out in the cold, will encourage them to quit too. Can't undersand why people use a drug which gives you no high, makes your teeth yellow and makes you look older. Sorry but thats what i think anyway.
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kathryn
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Posted - 2005/07/19 : 12:00:29
R u daft?
Pill's and speed do affect peoples health wot a stupid statement that is
 I think their selfish just think of their families bein worried about them when they go out of thier heads and them not knowin if their goin to be alright!
I also agree that passive smokin does affect other peoples health to!
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Glen
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Posted - 2005/07/19 : 12:03:52
Yeah, your always hearing about people dying due to passive smoking in club, major major problem!
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Underloop
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Posted - 2005/07/19 : 12:06:56
I hate smoking too. I'd prefer it if smoking was banned in bars and clubs. Nothing is worse than the smell of stale smoke clinging to your clothes, its disgusting. I also won't date girls who smoke (anymore lol). I just find it a huge turn off (especially when they try to smoke sexily hahaha).
I don't think smoking should be illegal though..... if people want to kill themselves slowly then thats their choice :-D heh
I think some clever chemist should devise the first smoke/smell free cigarette lol
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marchhare
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Posted - 2005/07/19 : 12:07:47
I think smoking tabacco should be just as illegal crack,pot,whatever.It doesnt do anything good for your body.kills you and the people around you.
"defanition of a schedule 1 narcotic in the USA.
1.The drug or substance has high potential for abuse
2.The drug or other substance has no currently accepted use in treatment
3.There is a lack of accepted safety for use of the drug or other substance under medical supervision."
I just got some where els if the tabacco smoke gets to bad though.either way I am gonna get cancer so what ever.
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_BoNe_
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Posted - 2005/07/19 : 12:13:57
Smoking is there so you can have a ten minute break every hour at work...
thats mainly why i smoke anyway, otherwise me giving up would of worked.
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whispering
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Posted - 2005/07/19 : 12:24:51
quote:
Originally posted by Rapid Bass:
I'm probably goin to ruffle a stack of feathers and sound like a complete whinger with this, but why is smoking still permitted in clubs and raves. Why is it legal at all?
They cant make it illegal because like 1/3 of the population of adults smoke. For the same reason its allowed in clubs and raves, many bars wouldnt survive without allowing people to smoke. Now if the club/bar doesnt make a smoking room with proper air conditioning its hardly the smokers fault.
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Originally posted by Rapid Bass:
Now i hear you all say 'cause the government gets loads of tax revenue from it'. This maybe true, but they lose 10 time as much paying for the health costs.
Actually, they save money. Smokers die younger -> they dont have to pay as much pension :p
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Originally posted by Rapid Bass:
I hate the smell of clothes after a night out, have no problem with people doing pills or speed cause it does't effect anyone elses health.
Yes. I smoke, and i hate the smell of my clothes too after a night at a bar. Do you have any idea how much you pay on tax money cause of all the crimes drug addicts do (many violent crimes at that)? Or how much one OD costs?
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Originally posted by Rapid Bass:
But all these people who smoke in clubs are selfish if you ask me and don't care about the health of anyone else. People who smoke should be made to smoke out in the cold, will encourage them to quit too.
If i go e.g. to a non smoking bar, i will of course go out to smoke. But if i am in a place that allowes smoking, then why shouldnt i smoke? If they wouldnt want me to smoke, they would either make a smoking area, or not allowe smoking at all. Also i dont smoke at home, so i smoke outside, in winters it can be easuily -10 C -> no problem.
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Originally posted by Rapid Bass:
Can't undersand why people use a drug which gives you no high, makes your teeth yellow and makes you look older. Sorry but thats what i think anyway.
Smoking gives you a high. My teeth are yellow cause of all the coffee i drink and sometimes they still ask me for ID when i buy beer or cigs ;)
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kathryn
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Posted - 2005/07/19 : 12:33:03
woah! wot a long reply! ^^^^^^^^^^^^
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ryg0r
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Posted - 2005/07/19 : 12:35:27
quote:
Originally posted by marchhare:
"defanition of a schedule 1 narcotic in the USA.
1.The drug or substance has high potential for abuse
2.The drug or other substance has no currently accepted use in treatment
3.There is a lack of accepted safety for use of the drug or other substance under medical supervision."
Lets ignore the 2nd & 3rd reasons (because then you could be a doctor and let your friends "test" xtc, weed, an other narcotic.
I want to focus on the 1st reason. And with it in mind, I present: Alcohol and Caffiene :P
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Underloop
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Posted - 2005/07/19 : 12:44:51
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Originally posted by ryg0r:
And with it in mind, I present: Alcohol and Caffiene :P
And I gladly accept alcohol and caffiene 
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djDMS
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Posted - 2005/07/19 : 12:48:23
Totally agree with Underloop's first post.
I know i have no right to impose my will on other people but i'm more than happy with all the new legislation re: smoking bans in public places.
If i'm going to smell, i want it to be on MY terms!!
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B.C
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Posted - 2005/07/19 : 12:57:58
whispering summed up my opinion, but I can also see why people would be angry with smokers. To be honest, Im angry at myself for smoking as I started when I was young for stupid reasons, and it is absolutely solid to quit...it's like not eating, virtually impossible.
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gobbo23
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Posted - 2005/07/19 : 12:59:57
quote:
Originally posted by ryg0r:
quote:
Originally posted by marchhare:
"defanition of a schedule 1 narcotic in the USA.
1.The drug or substance has HIGH potential for abuse
2.The drug or other substance has no currently accepted use in treatment
3.There is a lack of accepted safety for use of the drug or other substance under medical supervision."
Lets ignore the 2nd & 3rd reasons (because then you could be a doctor and let your friends "test" xtc, weed, an other narcotic.
I want to focus on the 1st reason. And with it in mind, I present: Alcohol and Caffiene :P
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high potential..... majoritively achohol is consumed in moderation and not many times a day, every day like smoking. Caffine does not have high adverse health risk associated with large consumption
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B.C
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Posted - 2005/07/19 : 13:24:04
wrong on both counts. Caffeine is very dangerous if used to excess. It speeds up the body's motabilism unnaturally, can lead to stress related problems resulting in heart-attacks and the like.
Alcahol, on the whole (in the country I live in anyway) is used to excess more than any other drug. It is rare that someone is just having one or two....it usually turns into 12 or 13.
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gobbo23
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Posted - 2005/07/19 : 13:39:08
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Originally posted by B.C:
wrong on both counts. Caffeine is very dangerous if used to excess. It speeds up the body's motabilism unnaturally, can lead to stress related problems resulting in heart-attacks and the like.
Alcahol, on the whole (in the country I live in anyway) is used to excess more than any other drug. It is rare that someone is just having one or two....it usually turns into 12 or 13.
whist caffine can be dangerous, when compared to the common health risk associated with smoking there is no comparison, if caffine is very dangerous then smoking would extreemly deadly.
as for alcohol i think we have pushed the moderation barrier from time to time. The majority of smokers at least smoke half a packet a day, day in, day out. One maybe two nights a week of drinking to excess posses less implications in the long run then the concistany of a smoking habbit
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DarrenJ
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Posted - 2005/07/19 : 13:45:01
you would be a fool if you compare guarna and something like cocaine
you can easly drink 7 redbulls/coffee's and just be a bit hyper, while 1 dodgy tablet could kill you
Yes I hate smoke, I hate most smoke machines that are aimed at the faces of ravers instead of were the lazer is pointing
I also hate the menthol taste in my mouth and im glad australia has ainty smoking laws in bars
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