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Buster Nut
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United Kingdom
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 Posted - 2021/12/07 : 14:27:34
Gods Kitchen and Gatecrasher were tied to the house scene and not rave/hardcore scene.
There wasn't a fluffy boot scene in UK hardcore during the 90's. It was all KAPPA, Adidas tracksuits and mismatched sports gear.
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It was comfy for a 12 hour all nighter and they didn't stick to you like jeans when you were dancing. KAPPA took off a little, because some of it did look pretty smart and ravers liked anything with stripes down the arms and legs so people could see your dance moves. It was more expensive than Adidas and the colours, shape/fit were better. There was the odd person with fancy dress, and some girls with specially made outfits, but there were no clothing movements in the hardcore scene other than the PAs giving the dancers shiny outfits so every PA looked the same. Only thing I can think of was people wearing luminous workmens jackets, and white gloves.
On the "Crasher Kids". From what I heard from other clubbers and read in magazines at the time those Gatecrasher kids were just up their arse students/posh kids who wanted to get their face in magazines as much as possible. I heard they had a hierarchy between them, politics, they would look down on "normies" as if they were special, newbies who weren't in the clique coming into the club copying their style, and the crasher kid with the most magazine shots was top dog, who looked down on all as if a king.
I forgot the guys name, one of the main faces of those nob 'eds, but he was a known jerk in an "I'm famous" kind of way.
Bunch of twerps.
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LeVzi
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 2021/12/08 : 07:05:04
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Originally posted by Buster Nut:
Gods Kitchen and Gatecrasher were tied to the house scene and not rave/hardcore scene.
There wasn't a fluffy boot scene in UK hardcore during the 90's. It was all KAPPA, Adidas tracksuits and mismatched sports gear.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thesun.co.uk%2Fliving%2F3130613%2Fkappa-tracksuit-bottoms-jackets-celebrities-retro%2F&psig=AOvVaw2ORovIuZXY1CcXuaRN7zxw&ust=1638973682232000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CAsQjRxqFwoTCKjO7-_y0fQCFQAAAAAdAAAAABA1
It was comfy for a 12 hour all nighter and they didn't stick to you like jeans when you were dancing. KAPPA took off a little, because some of it did look pretty smart and ravers liked anything with stripes down the arms and legs so people could see your dance moves. It was more expensive than Adidas and the colours, shape/fit were better. There was the odd person with fancy dress, and some girls with specially made outfits, but there were no clothing movements in the hardcore scene other than the PAs giving the dancers shiny outfits so every PA looked the same. Only thing I can think of was people wearing luminous workmens jackets, and white gloves.
On the "Crasher Kids". From what I heard from other clubbers and read in magazines at the time those Gatecrasher kids were just up their arse students/posh kids who wanted to get their face in magazines as much as possible. I heard they had a hierarchy between them, politics, they would look down on "normies" as if they were special, newbies who weren't in the clique coming into the club copying their style, and the crasher kid with the most magazine shots was top dog, who looked down on all as if a king.
I forgot the guys name, one of the main faces of those nob 'eds, but he was a known jerk in an "I'm famous" kind of way.
Bunch of twerps.
I didn't say the Gatecrasher / Godskitchen people were tied to the rave scene, I said that's where the fluffy boot brigade originated as far as I was concerned and it came to the UK Hardcore scene after the 2000's.
I didn't see a great deal of Kappa stuff although I do remember it, I saw more Fruit of the Loom and FILA stuff.
All the blokes wore those hi vis jackets, white gloves and dark glasses , and the girls wore training tops and either short skirts or trakkies.
You learn the hardway, at least I did, you don't wear a cut off pair of those fabric trackkie bottoms in the summer. lolol
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warped_candykid
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Posted - 2021/12/09 : 23:42:28
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Originally posted by Samination:
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Originally posted by warped_candykid:
You talk & think more about candy ravers than I do, so I'm glad we occupy much of your mind. Dude, if you came to an event here now, you'd see much of the same thing. The days of Hullabaloo & Happy2bHardcore are over. I'm 34, and my age group is the last generation that was able to even go to a store and buy one of the 15-16 Happy Hardcore CDs total sold here in the States...let that sink in a bit before you reply knowing all the Bonkers, Hardcore Heaven's, United Dance, Hardcore Adrenaline, Hardcore Nation, etc albums you had the availability to buy. Anything over 140 bpm is pretty much non-existent here in the majority of the States. After the 2010s, Hard Dance got pushed away bad, you're lucky to find even 1 DJ playing a Happy/UK Hardcore or Gabba set at a party (and it's a rare event if they're even booked), and they usually get put at the end. Granted, there are a few promotions who have held on through the years that still focus on Hard Dance, but they are spread out far and wide across the States. The West Coast is pretty much the last strong hold for Hard Dance on a regular basis. Rafferty, you're very lucky you get to dance and hear happy hardcore at an event for more than 1 hour.
Dont feed him. He'll just proclaim that "the fall of hardcore in america is because of the silly clothing."
I am stating it as a fact. You were part of that crowd so probably why you don't like what I am saying.
Tell me, how can a scene survive or even a brand in marketing survive when it is seen as an embarrassment and really dumb & stupid by many. Obviously things aren't going to survive in the long term are they. Which is exactly what happened.
Thunderdome & Dutch Hardcore is still thriving because it kept a respected image of itself. So people are still proud to be associated with it and never left the scene in droves.
At this point, I just have to laugh. You are an idiot. Please, keep associating the lack of Hardcore here in the States to the candy kids. Did it ever cross your mind that Happy Hardcore just isn't "in" with the current generation here Stateside? NO HARD DANCE IS. Did it ever cross your mind that we've gone 18 years with no physical product of Happy Hardcore music over here? That means the current 18 year olds just don't know the anthems of the genre, and most likely have only been exposed to Darren Styles & S3RL, and that's it.
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Icewind
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Canada
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Posted - 2021/12/28 : 01:38:33
Sorry for the bump but had to chime in...warped_candykid, don't even bother lol... It's apparent to me now that rafferty creates one of these threads every few months to bait the north american scene, and proclaim his preferred style to be superior. It really is just a troll post from someone who appears to be hyper focused on the fashion of the scene, and less concerned with the music.
Anyone whos been around the rave scene for a while knows that any raver worth their salt couldn't care less about what anyone is wearing at a rave.
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