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rafferty Advanced Member
United Kingdom
649 posts Joined: Feb, 2012
Posted - 2021/11/12 : 23:31:35
Was a time when most people into UK or Dutch Hardcore all looked like this.
Candy was never a good thing for the UK Hardcore scene, it lost all credibility and seemed to be invaded by a woke crowd that was almost a polar opposite both in style and mindset.
Instead of embracing cultures from Hip Hop scene with mcs, streetwear, rap sampling in Hardcore. It embraced guys with rainbow pants and colourful beads saying plur. Women went from dressing hot as fark in short tight gym tops and trainers to looking like they are dressed for a preschool party. WTF lol
Things are changing back to original traditions slowly, with Candy not even existing in the UK anymore. Hopefully the 2020s will be a new chapter.
warped_candykid Advanced Member
United States
3,965 posts Joined: Jan, 2004
Posted - 2021/11/13 : 16:21:29
You talk & think more about candy ravers than I do, so I'm glad we occupy much of your mind. Dude, if you came to an event here now, you'd see much of the same thing. The days of Hullabaloo & Happy2bHardcore are over. I'm 34, and my age group is the last generation that was able to even go to a store and buy one of the 15-16 Happy Hardcore CDs total sold here in the States...let that sink in a bit before you reply knowing all the Bonkers, Hardcore Heaven's, United Dance, Hardcore Adrenaline, Hardcore Nation, etc albums you had the availability to buy. Anything over 140 bpm is pretty much non-existent here in the majority of the States. After the 2010s, Hard Dance got pushed away bad, you're lucky to find even 1 DJ playing a Happy/UK Hardcore or Gabba set at a party (and it's a rare event if they're even booked), and they usually get put at the end. Granted, there are a few promotions who have held on through the years that still focus on Hard Dance, but they are spread out far and wide across the States. The West Coast is pretty much the last strong hold for Hard Dance on a regular basis. Rafferty, you're very lucky you get to dance and hear happy hardcore at an event for more than 1 hour.
Alert moderatorEdited by - warped_candykid on 2021/11/13 16:41:48
possys2 Senior Member
United Kingdom
294 posts Joined: Mar, 2021
Posted - 2021/11/14 : 01:23:53
what its matter what people wear/dress up?
as long as they there for the music n to have a good time!
Samination Advanced Member
Sweden
13,177 posts Joined: Jul, 2004
195 hardcore releases
Posted - 2021/11/14 : 07:16:30
quote:Originally posted by warped_candykid:
You talk & think more about candy ravers than I do, so I'm glad we occupy much of your mind. Dude, if you came to an event here now, you'd see much of the same thing. The days of Hullabaloo & Happy2bHardcore are over. I'm 34, and my age group is the last generation that was able to even go to a store and buy one of the 15-16 Happy Hardcore CDs total sold here in the States...let that sink in a bit before you reply knowing all the Bonkers, Hardcore Heaven's, United Dance, Hardcore Adrenaline, Hardcore Nation, etc albums you had the availability to buy. Anything over 140 bpm is pretty much non-existent here in the majority of the States. After the 2010s, Hard Dance got pushed away bad, you're lucky to find even 1 DJ playing a Happy/UK Hardcore or Gabba set at a party (and it's a rare event if they're even booked), and they usually get put at the end. Granted, there are a few promotions who have held on through the years that still focus on Hard Dance, but they are spread out far and wide across the States. The West Coast is pretty much the last strong hold for Hard Dance on a regular basis. Rafferty, you're very lucky you get to dance and hear happy hardcore at an event for more than 1 hour.
Dont feed him. He'll just proclaim that "the fall of hardcore in america is because of the silly clothing."
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Samination Advanced Member
Sweden
13,177 posts Joined: Jul, 2004
195 hardcore releases
Posted - 2021/11/14 : 11:38:05
quote:Originally posted by LeVzi:
Proper hardcore rave looked like this
If that link doesnt
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jenks Advanced Member
United Kingdom
3,691 posts Joined: Feb, 2003
19 hardcore releases
Posted - 2021/11/16 : 00:01:54
Does anyone have footage of candy at a UK rave? I haven't been to one in years so I've never seen it. Is it as bad as in North America?
Samination Advanced Member
Sweden
13,177 posts Joined: Jul, 2004
195 hardcore releases
Posted - 2021/11/16 : 17:25:23
yea... Blame the 4-5 people who dress in candy out of 100-200 people for any problems causes at raves...
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Alert moderatorEdited by - Samination on 2021/11/16 17:35:59
Warnman Advanced Member
Germany
2,677 posts Joined: Jun, 2010
Posted - 2021/11/17 : 02:24:49
quote:Originally posted by Samination:
yea... Blame the 4-5 people who dress in candy out of 100-200 people for any problems causes at raves...
Well said Jacek! I really miss NekoShuffle these days! I know that he had used to troll around in this forum, but who am I to blaim to? I used to piss around as well!
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rafferty Advanced Member
United Kingdom
649 posts Joined: Feb, 2012
Posted - 2021/11/29 : 08:22:46
quote:Originally posted by warped_candykid:
You talk & think more about candy ravers than I do, so I'm glad we occupy much of your mind. Dude, if you came to an event here now, you'd see much of the same thing. The days of Hullabaloo & Happy2bHardcore are over. I'm 34, and my age group is the last generation that was able to even go to a store and buy one of the 15-16 Happy Hardcore CDs total sold here in the States...let that sink in a bit before you reply knowing all the Bonkers, Hardcore Heaven's, United Dance, Hardcore Adrenaline, Hardcore Nation, etc albums you had the availability to buy. Anything over 140 bpm is pretty much non-existent here in the majority of the States. After the 2010s, Hard Dance got pushed away bad, you're lucky to find even 1 DJ playing a Happy/UK Hardcore or Gabba set at a party (and it's a rare event if they're even booked), and they usually get put at the end. Granted, there are a few promotions who have held on through the years that still focus on Hard Dance, but they are spread out far and wide across the States. The West Coast is pretty much the last strong hold for Hard Dance on a regular basis. Rafferty, you're very lucky you get to dance and hear happy hardcore at an event for more than 1 hour.
Yeah & you know what killed the scene there most likely. All the people turning up head to toe in candy shite.. It made a total mockery of the scene. People became embarrassed to be associated with such a ridiculous culture which never belonged in the Hardcore scene in the first place. You know where Candy even came from? It was copied from the Gatecrasher Trance Superclub Clubs in the early 2000s. Wow how original.
Isn't it funny how countries where Candy wasn't embraced and totally ignored, the Hard Dance scene is still strong like the Netherlands. What a coincidence. Maybe because they kept things real instead of commercializing it with total ******** stupidity like Canada & America.
Funny how the Drum N Bass screne is thriving here too. Another scene close to Hardcore that ignored Candy & kept it real.
Kinetic was the perfect example of hardcore and the messy fckers loving every second.
There was no fashion, there was no ****s given.
All about the music and the vibe.
Yeah Kinetic was a great club. Guys like Stu Allen, Demand, Brisk absolutely rocking it. It wasn't about fashion. But you didn't have guys covered in pink beads and rainbows saying plur turning up either.
I still stand by what I said, candy made a complete mockery of the Hardcore scene and made people stop going to parties or wanting to be associated with Hardcore.
rafferty Advanced Member
United Kingdom
649 posts Joined: Feb, 2012
Posted - 2021/11/29 : 08:49:23
quote:Originally posted by Samination:
quote:Originally posted by warped_candykid:
You talk & think more about candy ravers than I do, so I'm glad we occupy much of your mind. Dude, if you came to an event here now, you'd see much of the same thing. The days of Hullabaloo & Happy2bHardcore are over. I'm 34, and my age group is the last generation that was able to even go to a store and buy one of the 15-16 Happy Hardcore CDs total sold here in the States...let that sink in a bit before you reply knowing all the Bonkers, Hardcore Heaven's, United Dance, Hardcore Adrenaline, Hardcore Nation, etc albums you had the availability to buy. Anything over 140 bpm is pretty much non-existent here in the majority of the States. After the 2010s, Hard Dance got pushed away bad, you're lucky to find even 1 DJ playing a Happy/UK Hardcore or Gabba set at a party (and it's a rare event if they're even booked), and they usually get put at the end. Granted, there are a few promotions who have held on through the years that still focus on Hard Dance, but they are spread out far and wide across the States. The West Coast is pretty much the last strong hold for Hard Dance on a regular basis. Rafferty, you're very lucky you get to dance and hear happy hardcore at an event for more than 1 hour.
Dont feed him. He'll just proclaim that "the fall of hardcore in america is because of the silly clothing."
I am stating it as a fact. You were part of that crowd so probably why you don't like what I am saying.
Tell me, how can a scene survive or even a brand in marketing survive when it is seen as an embarrassment and really dumb & stupid by many. Obviously things aren't going to survive in the long term are they. Which is exactly what happened.
Thunderdome & Dutch Hardcore is still thriving because it kept a respected image of itself. So people are still proud to be associated with it and never left the scene in droves.
Samination Advanced Member
Sweden
13,177 posts Joined: Jul, 2004
195 hardcore releases
Posted - 2021/11/29 : 20:50:51
To the 10 or so raves I went to I dress like any normal dweeb would. T-shirt and jeans. And like I said before, kandy people amounted to less than 3% of the people who went to the raves I was at.
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LeVzi Advanced Member
United Kingdom
944 posts Joined: Feb, 2019
Posted - 2021/12/07 : 06:40:29
The whole "Fluffy boot" parade had slowly started to infiltrate the hardcore scene by the end of the 90's because the music was just utter cheesy shit.
I remember seeing live videos broadcast on Satellite TV late 90's from the likes of Gatecrasher and Godskitchen.
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