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Triquatra
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 Posted - 2016/06/24 : 13:20:18
if we leave?
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Samination
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Posted - 2016/06/24 : 13:37:49
Considering the numbers where so close, I do hope they will take it slow. Because 49% of population is a way to big number to **** up
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Posted - 2016/06/24 : 13:41:58
I'm sure it'll be taken slowly,
as for population splits, the US elections are the same each time always on a knife edge always clefting the population in twain.
There is now a petition going calling for a second referendum.
I can only imagine what the hard left would be saying if the results had been the other way around and the leavers were asking for a second referendum.
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trippnface
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Posted - 2016/06/24 : 15:29:34
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Originally posted by Triquatra:
I'm sure it'll be taken slowly,
as for population splits, the US elections are the same each time always on a knife edge always clefting the population in twain.
There is now a petition going calling for a second referendum.
I can only imagine what the hard left would be saying if the results had been the other way around and the leavers were asking for a second referendum.
CHEERS !!
**** Cameron & Obama; this is excellent news and hopefully the start of something grand :D
The globalist elite can eat shit :D !
lol guys... the World at large is in debt because of trash corrupt institutions like the EU. A temporary market flux is WELL worth your freedom from the elite swine that pretend to defend Democracy; but really are simply warmongering Capitalist sociopaths. If England or any other country is to take back control ; they must leave the EU & Nato; 2 entities bent on destroying Nationalism .
Not voting to leave would have been like an American voting to continue allowing wall street to rape us.
" Oh; we can't let the big banks fail; then we will all be broke and the economy will collapse "
That is called fear mongering. **** the markets and **** the governments.
Did Obama and Cameron want Brexit?
No?
Then you can bet your ass it is good for everybody.
The EU & NATO have long outlived their purpose.
awww poor whiny bitch obama ; no wonder he is so upset :(
"Much of the exodus could come from the big U.S. banks. Foreign financial firms were some of the remain camp, saying the consequences of voting to leave the EU would make London a less advantageous place to do business. Goldman Sachs spent at least $500,000 helping to fund the remain campaign. Goldman has 6,000 employees in London. It hadn?t said how many it may move out if the vote went for ?leave.?"
Or how about this? " Except refugees; or pay EU 250 000 Euros PER refugee.
Seems to me the EU are terrorists and extortionists.
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=250%20eu%20per%20regufee
** wow; reading and seeing the amount of idiots who think brexit supporters are pre dominantly " right wing" are brainwashed idiots of the highest order. Absolutely nothing like defending your slave masters; and fighting against your own salvation. I am about as far left as it gets. Neoliberals are really; really stupid...
I mean shit; the EU already stole Palestine from the Palestinians; best remove them before they steal Europe from the Europeans... Long time Genocide & Imperialism supporters
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ViolonC
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Posted - 2016/06/25 : 00:33:27
The two things i took away from this:
Old people voted exit, young people voted remain.
Regions very dependent on the EU voted exit, regions not so dependent voted remain.
I understand the first one and it's a shame that the old majority has the power to destroy opportunity for the younger generation. The second thing seems very silly unless you consider the vote is not cast because of the issue but to express a general frustration with the government and its policies.
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DJ D-Luc-D
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Posted - 2016/06/25 : 09:19:22
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Originally posted by ViolonC:
Regions very dependent on the EU voted exit, regions not so dependent voted remain.
The second thing seems very silly unless you consider the vote is not cast because of the issue but to express a general frustration with the government and its policies.
Well it's frustrating to know that you're run from overseas by people who you didn't elect, yeah. So it's probably both of those things.
Also an age breakdown (all of these you see are only surveys):
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Old people voted exit, young people voted remain.
I understand the first one and it's a shame that the old majority has the power to destroy opportunity for the younger generation.
I can understand people's perspective on this but I think people are forgetting that there was a lot of support for Brexit among age groups from 35 to 64, not just just 65 plus. Even then you'd expect 65 plus to be higher than 60% for leave.
Also, they were around when the UK was not a member of the EEC/EU so they have a better understanding of what they're voting for.
That graph was taken from this article by the way.
What I did find funny in this were the complaints that baby boomers "had caused house prices to soar" and suchlike.
Of course when it comes to immigrants, it's nothing to do with that, it's the government's fault for not building enough houses right? xD
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Posted - 2016/06/25 : 12:34:52
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Originally posted by DJ D-Luc-D:
I can understand people's perspective on this but I think people are forgetting that there was a lot of support for Brexit among age groups from 35 to 64, not just just 65 plus. Even then you'd expect 65 plus to be higher than 60% for leave.
Also, they were around when the UK was not a member of the EEC/EU so they have a better understanding of what they're voting for.
Have this chart to make it meaningful.
You are absolutely right that just "blaming" the 65+ age group falls short. But the general trend won't change and it's no different in other European countries as you can see here.
But i don't believe old people have a better understanding on what they voted just because there where there before UKs entry to EU.
The world today is a very different one. We are living in a globalized world and protectionism and nationalism will not get you anywhere but getting played by other powers.
Things have become so complex and out of touch that people feel the need to reduce complexity they don't understand by removing supra national structures. The EU needs reforms to bring it back to a more democratic and transparent form. But nevertheless the EU will be very important for the UK may it be a member or not. So it's a question whether you want to be part from the inside or the outside to aid this reforms.
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Posted - 2016/06/25 : 18:55:08
i call ******** and been calling the middleclass retards since
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DJ D-Luc-D
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Posted - 2016/06/25 : 22:14:34
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Originally posted by ViolonC:
quote:
Originally posted by DJ D-Luc-D:
I can understand people's perspective on this but I think people are forgetting that there was a lot of support for Brexit among age groups from 35 to 64, not just just 65 plus. Even then you'd expect 65 plus to be higher than 60% for leave.
Also, they were around when the UK was not a member of the EEC/EU so they have a better understanding of what they're voting for.
Have this chart to make it meaningful.
You are absolutely right that just "blaming" the 65+ age group falls short. But the general trend won't change and it's no different in other European countries as you can see here.
But i don't believe old people have a better understanding on what they voted just because there where there before UKs entry to EU.
The world today is a very different one. We are living in a globalized world and protectionism and nationalism will not get you anywhere but getting played by other powers.
Things have become so complex and out of touch that people feel the need to reduce complexity they don't understand by removing supra national structures. The EU needs reforms to bring it back to a more democratic and transparent form. But nevertheless the EU will be very important for the UK may it be a member or not. So it's a question whether you want to be part from the inside or the outside to aid this reforms.
Was it ever democratic since it became a political union? They've ignored plenty of referendums from its member states or told them to vote again for years.
Anyway what I mean is older people will understand how democracy and sovereignty has been eroded over the years. People are also forgetting they have grandchildren and many of them will be voting in their interests. Sure, the world has changed but if we're living in a globalised world, then it's no good limiting ourselves to Europe. Nationalism won't get us any more "played" than being in the EU; the UK's voice has always been ignored in Brussels. We can still cooperate with the rest of the world without unions that require the extreme and invasive levels of involvement that the EU does.
It won't matter soon anyway, give it a few years and it's going to crumble. :)
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Posted - 2016/06/26 : 11:14:17
they don't understand nothing about modern life, most of them don'nt event know what the EU is
finding out about the EU was the biggest search term on google the day after
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/06/24/google_what_is_eu_post_results_search_surge/
the middleclass are all thick, with primitive lives and have no logic to be able to work out anything too complex because they grow up with such shit lives doing nothing much in peace and quiet cul de sac's
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Posted - 2016/06/26 : 12:03:09
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in peace and quiet cul de sac's
that actually sounds pretty good!
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Posted - 2016/06/26 : 13:12:18
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quote:
Originally posted by Guest:
in peace and quiet cul de sac's
that actually sounds pretty good!
not really, it might be good for a week, then you can physically feel your brain shrinking, and logic disappearing
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Posted - 2016/06/26 : 13:53:14
Trust me, it is better than being the same situation, but having 50 kids being noisey.
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Posted - 2016/06/26 : 14:38:56
the middleclass don't have 50 kids, they have 1 called thomas or rupert, they are all brain dead with ginger hair and scrump apples from the apple tree in their garden
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Posted - 2016/06/26 : 15:06:08
http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/why-wall-street-fought-so-hard-against-brexit/ar-AAhAqif?ocid=spartandhp
PS ( Wall street is not on our side )
PSS ( Obama and Cameron are on the side of wall street)
PSSS ( Wall street is an institution of terrorist twats)
What is wrong with the English youth; I thought this was common knowledge?
One of your finest politicians. LEGEND. Don't make em like this in America.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85U44-kyjIg
look at that nasty smirk on Camerons face.
Who is smiling now **** :D!
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