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warped_candykid
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 Posted - 2016/01/09 : 22:56:21
Is there a certain volume level producers know to set their tracks to? I notice on the HU Albums, the mastering is solid, but I can buy a Super Eurobeat CD, and the volume is always a tad lower. How do artists/engineers know the volume is on level with any other track from a different artist?
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DJ_FunDaBounce
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Posted - 2016/01/10 : 01:10:57
A trick of mastering and mixing engineers is to make comparisons with other similar style tracks so as to achieve a relative balance. There is no "Standard Balance". What you hear is the end result of someone's personal taste and decision in the matter.
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Impulse_Response
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Posted - 2016/01/10 : 06:27:40
What I've found in my casual observation is that hardcore right now is no different than pop or EDM when it comes to loudness: most stuff is mastered right up to the limit. It isn't a matter of knowing where to set the volume for a track or album in this case - it's a matter of deciding how much quality you are willing to sacrifice to achieve the hollow goal of making stuff "loud." Most tracks and albums are quite squashed, and some have very audible clipping. This is the case on so much otherwise excellent music, such as JD-KiD & Arun - Excelsior, Who's Got The Stamina, CDs 1 and 3 on Freeform Family, and many others.
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Producers and record labels, please stop "loudness war" mastering everything. It sounds terrible.
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Elliott
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Posted - 2016/01/12 : 20:13:22
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Originally posted by Advather:
What I've found in my casual observation is that hardcore right now is no different than pop or EDM when it comes to loudness: most stuff is mastered right up to the limit. It isn't a matter of knowing where to set the volume for a track or album in this case - it's a matter of deciding how much quality you are willing to sacrifice to achieve the hollow goal of making stuff "loud." Most tracks and albums are quite squashed, and some have very audible clipping. This is the case on so much otherwise excellent music, such as JD-KiD & Arun - Excelsior, Who's Got The Stamina, CDs 1 and 3 on Freeform Family, and many others.
Yeah. To get a track as loud as most modern hardcore, you have to absolutely crush it. Sometimes you'll get lucky and it'll sound okay but most tracks now have very obvious clipping.
I get dragged into that stuff as much as any other producer. It's hard not to. :(
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DJ Flintlock3r
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Posted - 2016/01/20 : 09:30:24
Depends on the audience and sound you're going for. I prefer quality over loudness, so I can keep as much integrity in the mix as possible while still being able to have a lot of things going on at once. The problem is the "loudness wars", where every guy is trying to outdo his buddy and be louder. The result is loud music that doesn't sound dynamic and can even sound awful. Hardcore is one of those styles that has a lot of different things and dynamics going on, so red-lining the mastering...it sounds too muddy.
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Guest
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Posted - 2016/01/20 : 10:10:09
RMS -12db. which is the top of the green on all peak meters, its the maximum energy that can pass through everyday cables without clipping and frequency loss
export a track with every mixer channel on the green, and it will play the same in all other software and on hardware
so then play it on a hifi is will sound quiet and shit, so you need a power amp or a PA amp and massive thick speaker cable for all the extra watts to go through
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Edited by - Guest on 2016/01/20 10:11:25 |
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