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Josephson_Junction
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Posted - 2014/05/04 :  20:11:37  Show profile Send a private message
First, the synth I'm talking about is like a supersaw-ish nasal-sounding PWM (that's the best way I can describe it :p). Anyone know how it was created? It seems like it's everywhere in late 90's hardcore.
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w__NJ8uSiq0&t=1m14s
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9o0DIMFzFyk&t=1m25s

Second, does anyone know where this "boing" sample is from?
* Starts at the very beginning, loops while fading out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lH6lOjWyWbU
* Starts a few seconds in, loops: https://soundcloud.com/djsolution/solution-ephexis-elements-arkitech-remix

Cheers.


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Edited by - Josephson_Junction on 2014/05/04 20:23:20
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The closest I've gotten to making a similar synth has been by taking envelopes affecting oscillator pitch off of hoover patches. I did that on the Computer Music Genesis synth and used in a couple of my tracks. In Z3ta 2 I also found some interesting sounding hoover's which at closer look revealed to have drastic EQ applied (which explained the nasal quality). One more thing I do is experiment with patches and if I get something I like, I sample that, thus giving me a one-shot stab which I then re-import into a sampler.

As for the "boing" sound. I always thought it was some kind of vocal sound. no idea from where, though.


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Probably an Alpha Juno (so as you said, PWM-heavy. The same sound could be achieved with a lot of synths) sampled and very harsh EQ applied in the mid range. The first of the 2 examples is also timestretched. In both cases they are sampled synths rather than actual synths used and most of the characteristics come from EQ and such applied after.

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quote:
Originally posted by Hard2Get:
very harsh EQ



All of Trixxy's work is like that. It puts me off, what would otherwise be, some great tunes.


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quote:
Originally posted by Josephson_Junction:
Second, does anyone know where this "boing" sample is from?
* Starts at the very beginning, loops while fading out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lH6lOjWyWbU
* Starts a few seconds in, loops: https://soundcloud.com/djsolution/solution-ephexis-elements-arkitech-remix




I don't know where it's from but here it is https://www.wetransfer.com/downloads/a24622636b61aef5c19bc887b207c10c20140508123343/3baa9d

I used it in one of mine a few years back, took me a while to track the sample down.


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Josephson_Junction
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Posted - 2014/05/08 :  18:03:51  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Josephson_Junction's homepage
You three are legends, thanks!

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Originally posted by Mortis:
I don't know where it's from but here it is https://www.wetransfer.com/downloads/a24622636b61aef5c19bc887b207c10c20140508123343/3baa9d

I used it in one of mine a few years back, took me a while to track the sample down.


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quote:
Originally posted by Hard2Get:
very harsh EQ



All of Trixxy's work is like that. It puts me off, what would otherwise be, some great tunes.


It doesn't put me off as much, but yeah.


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Edited by - Josephson_Junction on 2014/05/08 18:06:08
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I would highly recommend the Redominator VSTi by Audiorealism. It's the best Juno emulation I've found personally and comes with many classic hardcore sounding presets to get ya started :)

http://www.audiorealism.se/redominator/index.htm


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to answer the first question I think Stu said there were quite a few old skool hoovers/stabs etc on this one:
that were used by the likes of slipmatt etc?
http://www.vintagesynth.com/emu/orbit.php


might be worth looking into!


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