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DJ Reevzy
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Posted - 2013/07/20 :  20:38:34  Show profile Send a private message  Visit DJ Reevzy's homepage
Not sure if this qu should go in this section but here goes...I've been recording some of my old skool happy hardcore tunes onto my pc and was wondering if anyone has had a go at improving the quality of vinyl rips before?

I've saved the recordings as WAVs and on the whole the sound quality is alright but not exactly comparable to cd or digital releases. I'm no producer but do have soundforge on my pc with all the plug ins (not that I know what they do!?).

If there are any producers or techies out there who could give me some advice and the tunes a kick up the arse then much appreciated.

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Posted - 2013/07/20 :  20:58:41  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Triquatra's homepage
heres an older thread on the subject:
http://www.happyhardcore.com/forums/topic.asp?topic_id=44009

what dain-ja said in it seems quite reasonable!
1) Use good needles
2) Clean the records
3) Use good turntables so the pitch doesn't flutter. Tech12s.
4) Use a good preamp (so no cheap mixers) and leave the EQs/balance knobs at 12 oclock
5) Use balanced cables (1/4" or XLR)
6) Use a good audio interface (something pro-level with balanced inputs)
7) Don't let the mixer go past 0dB and set your input level to about 1-2dB of headroom in your recording software
8) Record to 24 bit wav
9) Use a stereo imager to adjust any stereo discrepancies from cables/mixer/needles/etc
10) Eliminate clicks and pops
11) Use a good limiter like the free BetaBugs W1 or, if you have money, the Waves L2 to maximize the volume. This reduces dynamic range so you have to know how to use it properly. Basically, don't overuse it but try to get your tracks to a general -12dB RMS using a level meter.
12) Save in 320kbps 44.1 CBR mp3


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Posted - 2013/07/20 :  21:13:42  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit DJ Reevzy's homepage
Nice1 but it's more the remastering side I'm interesting in. I've pretty much done everything on that thread but now want to brighten up the sound a bit.

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Hmmm, perhaps someone out there can shed light on that side of things - I would be interested in what people have to say too (eventually at least)
At the moment I'm going through all my vinyl and tracking down digital versions of them so that I have digital versions to use if I ever get CDJs - much rather the digital versions over vinylrips (as would we all, i'm sure) but I guess we're going to be stuck with quite a few that will never see a digital release..


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Posted - 2013/07/20 :  21:29:37  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit DJ Reevzy's homepage
I'm kinda doin the same. Basically trawling the web to try n find either a site i can download the tunes from or a cd compilation with full lenth versions on it. Failing that i've ended up goin on discogs n buying the vinyl then rippin it...hence the above question! Propa long but worth it!

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quote:
Originally posted by DJ Reevzy:
Nice1 but it's more the remastering side I'm interesting in. I've pretty much done everything on that thread but now want to brighten up the sound a bit.



You could boost some of the high end on just about any eq to do that. The trick is to not overdo it, especially if you're not working with high quality monitors. I say try out a few eq settings on the same track, maybe boosting about 2 db at around 5khz with a low Q setting. Do you intend to play the tracks along with more modern ones?


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Posted - 2013/07/20 :  22:45:53  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit DJ Reevzy's homepage
The tunes are all mid 90's stuff so '95-98 sorta era. I do mix it up a bit but it's more the fact they sound noticeably different. Although saying that my bouncy techno mix had a few vinyl rips n they didn't sound too cack!

https://soundcloud.com/dj-reevzy/rave-on-vol-3-bouncy-techno


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quote:
Originally posted by DJ Reevzy:
The tunes are all mid 90's stuff so '95-98 sorta era. I do mix it up a bit but it's more the fact they sound noticeably different. Although saying that my bouncy techno mix had a few vinyl rips n they didn't sound too cack!

https://soundcloud.com/dj-reevzy/rave-on-vol-3-bouncy-techno



hah! yeah, had a listen and the quality, imo, is as good as it gets for that era.

When you boost any frequencies you always run the risk of making the material sound harsh or boomy. That's why I wouldn't push it more than 2 db, maybe even less. You must also take into account that nowadays "mastering" is a common term whereas 20 years ago it was a pretty well kept industry secret, which is why older stuff isn't as compatible with newer stuff, if at all!


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