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whispering
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 Posted - 2012/12/08 : 15:05:02
Been thinking of buying a new PC. So far i've come up with the following setup:
The price row on the right is what i would buy now. The ones with 0 price, is what i already have.
I could save half on the case/power if i went with Fractal Design, but what i've read that Antec one is the best quiet PC case there is. Could also do with half the memory. But although I don't need much from the computer, it would have to last long. Like really long.
Any suggestions?
EDIT: what i currently have:
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Samination
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Posted - 2012/12/08 : 15:23:45
Was about to write that you should get an SSD instead when I noticed it was right in the middle of the stuff :P
You're luck you can get those 16GB RAM for that price. That's what I payed for my 8GB I have today back in jan 2011.
If I where to upgrade/buy a new setup, I would only spend on ~1000 Euro (or max 10 000 SEK), and I would still get a computer that rivals the best ones from last year. But ofcourse, when I bought my setup, I didnt buy a new Screen, Chassi or periphels (mouse keyboard n stuff). But since then I have bought a new screen and a chassi, but in total it didnt go beyond the cost the screen you intent to buy.
If you have space (power is a nobrainer with 850W), install the 520GB drive aswell :P
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whispering
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Posted - 2012/12/08 : 16:00:56
I've been thinking of adding the 0,5TB drive as a temp download partition. It's pretty old, so wouldn't use it for anything else anymore TBH.
I want a bigger screen (current one is 24"), i also would like to have it in 16x9 widescreen format. So I want the new 2560x1440 resolution one. But it'll take probably a year till i can afford that. Hopefully the prices come down by then.
Spending a lot of money on the chassis is different then on electronics, cause that one gets older a lot slower. So i could probably use it 5 years from now without any problems. Assuming it works as well as i'm hoping. Same goes for Screen, keyboard and mouse. My current display is 3-4 years old, keyboard (G15) is 6,5 years old. Doesn't effect on computer speed, so i can use a bit more money on those, as they don't become obsolete in a few years.
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Josephson_Junction
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Posted - 2012/12/08 : 17:13:11
Drop that RAM for two orders of these.
You'll get a better product for less. Seriously, if the reviews for that memory on Amazon aren't enough, just do a search for it around the web. It's completely solid, whether its for consumer, professional, or enthusiast usage. Fancy overkill heat spreaders be damned.
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danielseven
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Posted - 2012/12/08 : 20:19:49
i7 or nothing.
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Josephson_Junction
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Posted - 2012/12/08 : 20:46:07
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Originally posted by danielseven:
i7 or nothing.
Why? I originally thought of going with an i7 for my new system, but the i5 3570 turned out to be overkill for what I do (music production; it doesn't help that several of my favorite plugins are resource intensive). The only time I break past 80% CPU utilization during normal usage on my part is when I render a large mixdown in the DAW.
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whispering
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Posted - 2012/12/08 : 21:47:58
quote:
Originally posted by Josephson_Junction:
Drop that RAM for two orders of these.
You'll get a better product for less. Seriously, if the reviews for that memory on Amazon aren't enough, just do a search for it around the web. It's completely solid, whether its for consumer, professional, or enthusiast usage. Fancy overkill heat spreaders be damned.
Here most memory modules cost the same. I would choose Samsung if it was cheaper. The reason why i went with 8GB x 2 is because the max on the motherboard is 32. So if i ever need to max it, i wouldn't have to replace the ones i buy now. Though its very doubtful that would actually happen. EDIT, checked and it seems they don't sell Samsung here anymore o_O
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Originally posted by danielseven:
i7 or nothing.
My work PC has an i7. Nothing fancy TBH. From the reviews i've read, it gives you an advantage on rendering and stuff like that. Stuff i don't do on my home PC. The only serious program i use at home is AutoCad, that doesn't use more then 1 core. I did however change the processor to i5 3570K 3,4Ghz. costs 25e more, but did much better on the tests i read. Although it was very similar on most of the stuff i would use it for.
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Posted - 2012/12/09 : 01:32:09
Why even waste the money on then i5? 77 euros and get a AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Quad Core processor.
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Josephson_Junction
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Posted - 2012/12/09 : 04:14:58
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Originally posted by whispering:
The only serious program i use at home is AutoCad, that doesn't use more then 1 core.
You can get an AMD FirePro V4900 for around $160 USD and ACAD will perform wonderfully with it compared with the GTX 550. No idea if said GTX already performs adequately for you in ACAD, just throwing that out there.
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Originally posted by TheOneNOnly:
Why even waste the money on then i5? 77 euros and get a AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Quad Core processor.
Keep in mind that the Phenom II series lacks full support for several instruction sets such as SSE4 and AVX. There will be a noticeable difference regarding performance in certain applications (especially archival and video editing), but it's definitely not a dire scenario.
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whispering
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Posted - 2012/12/09 : 08:55:31
I was initially going for AMD. It's what i've so far always bought. But it seems AMD has fallen back on the race. Would it be enough for me now? Absolutely. But they run hotter, drain more power and as i hate ATI, Intel seems the more logical solution for me. The one i was going for first was AMD FX-4170 4.2 Ghz 4-core Black Editon AM3+ (@ 133e)
My current GPU is less then a year old. So far its worked wonders. However ACAD would run on an integrated graphics card without problems. System memory is really the only thing it needs, and processor power for few more heavy commands.
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Samination
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Posted - 2012/12/09 : 09:33:53
to my knowledge, Intel has always been the more stable processor. Most computer's I've had has been AMD, and I haven't had any real problem with them (except underclocking a stationary PC, I got a bluescreen instantly).
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whispering
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Posted - 2012/12/09 : 14:55:59
Made the order, only 3 out of 8 products were in stock. So will probably take some weeks to get it though.
Will expect this to be a good computer for the next 5 years, 2 of the first years a very good one. Though only time will tell.
Ended up changing the processor (to i5 3570K) and motherboard (to Sabertooth Z77) to better ones since i made this topic. Also did read some more on AMD processors, but they never did fully convince me to make the change from Intel.
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Audio Warfare
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Posted - 2012/12/10 : 09:08:37
Yeah, stay clear of AMD processors for the time being. Intel's offerings are trouncing them right now.
I'd swap that Caviar Green for a Caviar black unless you're just using that for secondary storage?
If you do decide to go with a Fractal Design case I can confirm that the R3 is a very nice case. Decent sound dampening and my components still stay cool with just the basic included fans (I do leave the case fans up full at all times). That's getting pretty intensive use with production and gaming too.
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