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Claxton
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 Posted - 2012/11/11 : 23:06:26
This is stupid!
Honestly don't know what to believe what so ever. Something is not right though and Sy needs to come out and provide evidence now if it is as his statement said.
One thing is for sure though, the whole thing has been handled very badly. If it did need to be released to the public it should have been done with a full statement to begin with, stating all the facts and evidence. This has been a mess from Friday night with reputations being dragged through the mud.
I really hope this doesn't split the scene even more.
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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2012/11/11 : 23:10:57
Well that was a very sobering read.
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Posted - 2012/11/11 : 23:14:09
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Well that was a very sobering read.
Indeed.
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Posted - 2012/11/11 : 23:26:14
Jesus.
Given up trying to work out the discrepancies.
I know I've been guilty of some big positional swings on this myself (in terms of trying to see through the murky faeces of opinions, re-tellings and emotions in trying to decide what sounds true or feasible), but if there was ever a group of people that it would be a bad idea to present a case like this to, without total, complete and comprehensive facts from all parties concerned - it would be the Hardcore community.
Got to feel sorry for Storm - truly an emotional roller-coaster. But he's got to have more control than he's demonstrated. You can't simply say "I've had enough, he's had a couple of days to prove himself and he hasn't - that's it, I can't stand by him, I'm outing him" - or words to that effect. Should have sort legal advice. Should not have gone public yet. Not going public yet wouldn't have been the same as a cover-up. It just would have been prudent.
Urgh. I should shut up really. It's a horrendous situation, and it's very easy for me to sit here and say "Should have done this", "Shouldn't have done that". It's an incomprehensible situation, and I feel awfully sorry for all involved.
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Posted - 2012/11/11 : 23:48:58
I think Storm is overreacting. He's making out like the age of consent is a black and white line between upstanding citizen and paedophile, when in reality it's an arbitrary line we draw for the sake of practicality. It might be distasteful, but it really does make a difference how under-age they are. If they really were 16/17, then this is all being blown way out of proportion. It's distasteful, but the man hardly deserves to have his life wrecked over it. If on the other hand they were much younger than that, then it's obviously a lot more serious.
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Posted - 2012/11/12 : 00:16:31
The way Storm made it sound at first, and the way the initial rumor was going around was akin to that he raped a five year old.
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Samination
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Posted - 2012/11/12 : 01:17:36
well considering his ex said to storm that he was mastrubating to girls that didn't look like they where over 16.
And unless this Man had access to hightech equiptment, he can't wipe his harddrive completly, so if the police really did take it in concern of child pornography, they should have looked thouroughly. Or they did not their job properly.
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Posted - 2012/11/12 : 01:40:25
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well considering his ex said to storm that he was mastrubating to girls that didn't look like they where over 16.
And unless this Man had access to hightech equiptment, he can't wipe his harddrive completly, so if the police really did take it in concern of child pornography, they should have looked thouroughly. Or they did not their job properly.
You don't need high-tech equipment, you just drill holes/screws into the HDD.
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Samination
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Posted - 2012/11/12 : 01:43:56
Really. Now I don't know what to believe.
First Storm act's like a child, then he starts writting perfectly (funny compared to his previous rant about people who called out about hardcore being dead. There he couldn't make a sentence stick, just like me :P).
Then Keyes opened his mouth.
Sy came out about the accusations. Says that it was not a large enough offence to have him on the sex offender list.
Storm came out with a large wall of text. Basicly said he tried to help him get this all public. Storm also says that EVEN cautioned people are forced onto the sex offender list, which Sy doesn't seem to be.
If the law now says that both convicted and cautioned offenders are to sign that list, why haven't Sy signed it? I presume the police would've picked him up and have him sign it at their station.
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Posted - 2012/11/12 : 01:44:06
There's also several programs that will overwrite your hard drive about 160 times, essentially leaving it gibberish that would take a very, very, very long time to recover.
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Samination
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Posted - 2012/11/12 : 01:45:22
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Originally posted by Samination:
well considering his ex said to storm that he was mastrubating to girls that didn't look like they where over 16.
And unless this Man had access to hightech equiptment, he can't wipe his harddrive completly, so if the police really did take it in concern of child pornography, they should have looked thouroughly. Or they did not their job properly.
You don't need high-tech equipment, you just drill holes/screws into the HDD.
every night? talk about expensive taste.
Dys7: true, but if this is all true, and sy really did all this, I guess he really aint worth the time anymore.
Anyways, now lets see what Sy does, or if anyone can REALLY dig up Sy's name on that sex offender's list.
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Posted - 2012/11/12 : 02:42:16
Carl storm @ facebook
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Everyone had a good go now ? Ok brilliant, now lets see what's up next week, he can request his tapes and statements from the interview at any time with no cost to him, it's his right, don't believe me ? Phone a police station or solicitors and ask, I said to him to do that, we would all meet up and sort it out, that was on Wednesday, nothing has been done. you wanna shoot the messenger ? take aim
and you better make sure you ****in get the shot if not, you're ****ed. I've read so much shit it's untrue, don't ask me for proof ask said dj, I don't know why people carried this round with them for years but I couldn't handle that information in my head, for 2 hours, it was horrible, I have informed the police via 101, I have a ref number and they are coming round tomorrow, you wanted to know why we thought what we did, so I put it up, I will hold my hands up. I was fuming on Friday when I tweeted and yeah ok I did confirm the rumours on some people's pages, and look who retweeted me! but that's after a week of begging for answers and being told I'm lying ? How can it be so? And after his pathetic statement, which has holes all over it, I had to put what I did, I was having 500 people kicking the shit out of me, maybe I should have recorded him admitting it, mind you even then people would say ' oh it was 5 years ago ' it would be a bit different if it was your daughter sister or niece, end ****in of, I tried my hardest with him last week, and he thought it would all blow over, I told him it was being talked about and its coming out this weekend and he asked me to cover, er NO call me what you want, grass. ****, scumbag, prick anything but there's one thing I'm not and thats a convicted sex offender who has a record. So if ya hate me now so what, I have the balls to stand up for what's right. And Keyes stood next to me, and look at the names on the ****in emails, we was all talking about it, but they haven't commented, im not saying that's bad, at all, they don't want the shit, but I will take it, because until he comes with the evidence to clear himself, he's mugging us all off, ok I am righteous and I do have a big ****in mouth but at least I can still look you all in the eye. Thank you for the support I love you and to be honest thank you for the hate, at least I know where I stand with you. So.............
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jenks
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Posted - 2012/11/12 : 03:02:32
Storm is erratic to say the least. We don't even really know exactly what Sy is supposed to have done. I find it difficult to believe that a paedophile caught with child porn on their computer would get away with a caution, and I'm similarly sceptical that the police wouldn't have found it. If it's a case of him having content of girls that were 16/17 and thus technically under-age, then well done Storm/Squad-E/TheEx, you've ruined a guys career over something that amounts to a relatively minor transgression. Even if it's more than that, it's still beyond irresponsible to be leaking all this shit before you have any firm handle on what has actually even happened.
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Posted - 2012/11/12 : 03:47:38
No matter how much they confess and get open with it, paedofiles will get the same treatment as people who completly deny it and get caught, so I guess Sy's going all in.
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Posted - 2012/11/12 : 04:05:32
So I was trying not to post on here again but at this point, I have to say that I will not stand by Sy or MC Storm's side.
Firstly, there's no telling what really did or did not happen with Sy and the underage pornography. What MC Storm said could be true, or an exaggeration of the truth. Personally I hope that it is as simple as what Sy said, but there's really no telling. But because of the uncertainty of facts, I can't stand by his side.
Secondly, I honestly despise MC Storm now. I'm not saying that what he is saying are flatout lies, but regardless of whether they are truth or not, who the f**k is he to be going about sharing all of this information??? Does he work for the BBC or some shit? No he does not. Do ravers have the right to know? well in a sense yes. But how about we get all of our shit straight first before utter chaos happens, which already has. This is a perfect example of when social media goes wrong. I mean regardless of what did happen, it is not a necessity for every individual to know every single detail involving this. I'm gonna try and stay away from this topic because really we can waste our time debating this over and over again and it will amount to nothing.
Also how about you read the details before some of you go on your bitch rants because it's clear by some of your posts you are not reading a damn thing.
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