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What do you think it would be like?

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Dys7
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What do you think hardcore today would be like if it was as popular and gained as much media attention as dubstep, or pop? Do you think hardcore would be better or worse?
Was just wondering this lately.


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Posted - 2011/11/18 :  05:38:36  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit SpiritWolf's homepage
It would be awesome to talk to everyone about hardcore, but I'm guessing the quality of the music would be horrendous. That's just my thought.

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Posted - 2011/11/18 :  07:48:48  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Triquatra's homepage
I suspect it would be much the same to be honest!

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Audio Warfare
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Posted - 2011/11/18 :  08:46:54  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Audio Warfare's homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Dys7:
What do you think hardcore today would be like if it was as popular and gained as much media attention as dubstep,



It did back in the oldskool days! I don't think much would be different, we already get remixes of all the latest pop tunes... They would just be legit rather than bootlegs haha.


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Edited by - Audio Warfare on 2011/11/18 08:47:10
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I'm not a pretentious prick that searches for things that are't so mainstream for the sake of it, but I do very much enjoy the fact that it feels like - within my circle of mates/normal life - I've got my own special little thing called Hardcore. I've got a handful of people I can talk about it with (outside of the forum) and they're always really enthusiastic and passionate conversations. I think those things would be lost, or at least lessened.

Even from the perspective of events. You wouldn't get excited about your favourite raves any more, because you could just go to any bar and it'd be on. Go for a beer on a Thursday lunch-time - and it's playing in the pub. Mmm.

Reduces the magic, is what I'm getting at.

I slight elevation in popularity - I'd like that. A few more raves in my area on the calendar. A few more people to talk about it.

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I gotta say, Hardcore was popular in Australia at one stage. Even hitting no. 1 in the 2day FM top40 charts. I think the song was "Here's Johnny" by Hocus Pocus. and then you had tunes from Interactive like Forever Young, 'Living Without Your Love' and Tokyo Ghetto Puzzy - I kiss Your Lips, in the top 10 for a few weeks or so...

What do you think of that?


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quote:
Originally posted by ultraskool:
I gotta say, Hardcore was popular in Australia at one stage. Even hitting no. 1 in the 2day FM top40 charts. I think the song was "Here's Johnny" by Hocus Pocus. and then you had tunes from Interactive like Forever Young, 'Living Without Your Love' and Tokyo Ghetto Puzzy - I kiss Your Lips, in the top 10 for a few weeks or so...

What do you think of that?



More Happy Hardcore then. Although Heres Johnny was more on the Gabber side of things if that can get to number one then anything can lol


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Posted - 2011/11/18 :  13:24:41  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Hard2Get's homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Triquatra:
I suspect it would be much the same to be honest!



Like. It's funny because it's true.


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Posted - 2011/11/18 :  14:08:59  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Quicksilver's homepage
I think production quality would increase, like Styles, his productions are really clean and professional sounding (but doesn't mean I like all the tunes, though) but that's also, I guess, because he's on top.

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Posted - 2011/11/18 :  15:09:08  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit NekoShuffle's homepage
It depends how much really. All popularity is fleeting so it'd never last forever, but that would be exactly what we need to boost the scene further and put it on the map more, the biggest problem would be if it got too much popularity and became as disposable as dubstep because in the long run that wouldn't do the reputation of genre any favours and we'd probably have to wait another 15 years before the mainstream would accept it again - which personally I don't think is a good way for a genre to operate.

I'd prefer hardcore to be as popular in the same way trance is - rather than being a flash in the pan, 0 to limelight in 0.3 seconds kinda thing I'd rather it just got bigger and more spread out through diversity and quality tracks and stabalised as a really popular genre rather than working on fads and trends.

You may love dubstep or you may hate it but at the end of the day it's kind of a gimmick genre, when the heavy bass fad wears off, dubstep will fade away as a result and I'm already seeing that begin to happen.

Ideally we just need to make solid hardcore tracks that sound like hardcore (not a cheap imitation of another genre) and just make a really valiant, strong effort to make diverse and good quality tunes. That's what will really benefit hardcore IMO.

Either way I wouldn't mind. I love hardcore and I'd love it whether it's popular or unpopular so long as the music is good and enjoyable. Hardcore is a very close knit scene, it wouldn't change much if it got popular overnight but I think it would change completely if it changed over a period of years and spread itself all over the world.


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Edited by - NekoShuffle on 2011/11/18 15:13:01
DJ Immenze
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Posted - 2011/12/10 :  00:45:51  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit DJ Immenze's homepage
I dunno :/ I like the way hardcore is sort of its own community and its not all about famous artists but more about the quality and tunage the track is. The effects of mainstream, I personally think would be a ambiguous outcome as there would be good points and bad.

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Bonkers4Life
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Posted - 2011/12/10 :  00:51:45  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Bonkers4Life's homepage
it'll end up just like Dubstep.



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cruelcore1
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Posted - 2011/12/10 :  01:33:45  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit cruelcore1's homepage
It would be very commercialized, but if more ppl knew about, it there would be many more young passionate artists.

Though, that's gonna happen. I know how people react to UK Hardcore. All it will take will be a proper promotion in the right place and time, more sources to get rid of hard-to-find obstacle, and a few months after it'll be as popular as Dubstep.


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Edited by - cruelcore1 on 2011/12/10 01:38:04
NekoShuffle
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quote:
Originally posted by Bonkers4Life:
it'll end up just like Dubstep.



Yeah anything that spikes into fame falls flat on its face. The best fame to have a small gradual fame that grows into something amazing as opposed to getting popular really quickly and having people get bored and drop you never to return. Trance has been consistant because it stuck it its guns really, it's been in and out of fashion a few times now, I think the trance scene is a good scene to learn from because it's amazing how much of a community they build around their listeners while still managing to be huge and celebrated the world over.


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as Hardcore is still very unknown in Sweden, I would say what made it good was it's underground aspect. Sure it wasn't as underground as Jungle or Drum n Bass, with its cheesy vocals, but it was still better music tbh.

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Lilark
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Posted - 2011/12/11 :  21:38:59  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Lilark's homepage
I'd love to see hardcore spread around more. I don't know anyone in my house or school that actually enjoys Hardcore, most have never even heard of it. It's sad really.



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