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Audio Warfare
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 Posted - 2011/11/17 : 01:30:33
I've been wanting to try my hand at Hard Trance for a while and as I've always thought this would make a good Hard Trance track here it is. :P Would love to hear peoples thoughts on this, I'm sure it's a little rough around the edges as I'm just learning the sound.
I'll probably use a different alias when I get to that point but not sure on a name yet!
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_Jay_
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Posted - 2011/11/17 : 09:45:29
Hard Trance seriously suits your production style man. That was absolutely glorious!
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Posted - 2011/11/17 : 10:04:54
spot on! :)
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Audio Warfare
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Posted - 2011/11/17 : 10:21:59
Thanks mate. :D
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Hard Trance seriously suits your production style man. That was absolutely glorious!
Cheers mate! :) I've always loved my Hard Trance so a lot of my productions probably have a hint of it in there anyway lol. I loved having all the extra space working at a lower bpm gives you actually, gives room for a few different things. I think I'll be doing more.
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Lilley
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Posted - 2011/11/17 : 11:20:37
Sounds really good. I've long been of the opinion that freeform dj's just keep selecting 45rpm for their hard trance tunes.
About the song. It really really needs a bassline. I'm not talking an almost subaudible subliminal thing that it sorta currently has, but a big fat driving bassline. The kick is good and solid, but the track is really lacking the power that comes from a strong bass. Due to that it feels sort of empty and lacking I think. imo.
Even if you don't go overboard with it, it needs to make a presence.
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Audio Warfare
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Posted - 2011/11/17 : 11:33:20
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Originally posted by Lilley:
Sounds really good. I've long been of the opinion that freeform dj's just keep selecting 45rpm for their hard trance tunes.
About the song. It really really needs a bassline. I'm not talking an almost subaudible subliminal thing that it sorta currently has, but a big fat driving bassline. The kick is good and solid, but the track is really lacking the power that comes from a strong bass. Due to that it feels sort of empty and lacking I think. imo.
Even if you don't go overboard with it, it needs to make a presence.
Thanks mate, appreciate the feedback! Perhaps I need to give the bass more mid and high presence so it cuts through everything a bit better. Will give it a bash tonight. :)
Agree with you on the Freeform, lots of it deffo borrows very heavily from Hard Trance.
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Lilley
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Posted - 2011/11/17 : 12:05:33
My idea of what Hard Trance should sound like does stem quite majorly from the fact that I'm a very big fan of Bas & Ram in their harder days. Stuff like speed of light, bells, rendez vous makes me creme a little. Some people even go as far as calling it hardstyle. They're wrong, but the sentiment is nice.
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Audio Warfare
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Posted - 2011/11/17 : 14:29:37
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Originally posted by Lilley:
My idea of what Hard Trance should sound like does stem quite majorly from the fact that I'm a very big fan of Bas & Ram in their harder days. Stuff like speed of light, bells, rendez vous makes me creme a little. Some people even go as far as calling it hardstyle. They're wrong, but the sentiment is nice.
Yeah I do love the Dutch/German harder Hard Trance sound. It really paved the way for Hardstyle I think. All of the illegal raves over here back in the early - mid 2000's used to rock all the harder Tracid Traxx, Uberdruck, etc. stuff before Hardstyle came along, good times. 8)
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Simon
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Posted - 2011/11/17 : 17:55:26
Superb my friend, that's crying out for an EBM mix!
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Posted - 2011/11/17 : 22:00:58
Oh yeah! This is a very budding idea. I agree with the lack of the bassline. I would try to install some kind of high tone sparkling sound in the background during the middle part of the break (0:40 - 0:53) as well.
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Audio Warfare
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Posted - 2011/11/17 : 22:55:08
Right I've done an update! Hopefully the bass is sorted now? Added another layer with a bit more mid - high end. - http://soundcloud.com/audio-warfare/audio-warfare-operation
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Superb my friend, that's crying out for an EBM mix!
Cheers mate. :D I've not really heard a lot of EBM TBH, certainly nothing recently. Link me up to something good! :)
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Originally posted by Warnman:
Oh yeah! This is a very budding idea. I agree with the lack of the bassline. I would try to install some kind of high tone sparkling sound in the background during the middle part of the break (0:40 - 0:53) as well.
Ah thank you man and cheers for the feedback. As I said above hopefully the bass sounds fatter now. I think I know what sort of thing you mean by sparkling sound, I'll try some things out. :)
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Posted - 2011/11/18 : 09:36:10
Ooh i'm digging this! Didn't hear the first version but this is lovely. And as an added bonus, you could pitch it up to make a freeform monster! 2 for the price of one, where do i sign?
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Audio Warfare
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Posted - 2011/11/18 : 09:49:55
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Ooh i'm digging this! Didn't hear the first version but this is lovely. And as an added bonus, you could pitch it up to make a freeform monster! 2 for the price of one, where do i sign?
Thanks mate, glad you like it. :D No reason to mess around pitching it up either - http://soundcloud.com/audio-warfare/audio-warfare-operation-scatter-aw008-b ;)
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Lilley
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Posted - 2011/11/18 : 12:49:22
really like it, thanks for adding more bass.
In the second section of the main melody, at 2:02 you can start to here hints of that acid underlayer. However, it doesn't really come out until about 2:17. Any reason you left it so long?
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Audio Warfare
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Posted - 2011/11/18 : 13:09:15
No worries mate, glad to hear what I've done has helped. :) A load more tracks are going to follow this one! Will be remixing a few of my Freeform bits and I have loads of new ideas too.
Not really. :P I could certainly bring it up sooner. Will have a play with the automation. Cheers, really does help when people pick out the little touches for improvement! I get so absorbed in what I'm doing it is easy to miss things like that.
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Posted - 2011/11/18 : 13:28:50
heh heh, I know what you mean. I was trying to mix a band and was having some trouble with the drums. Guy comes up to me and asked if I'd tried moving the mic's. No, no i hadn't.
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