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NekoShuffle
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Posted - 2011/04/25 : 12:54:17
The rave scene as a whole needs to be completely shaken up. House music used to be about liberation and losing it in a field off the M25, now you can't even get into a club playing house music without smart shoes and clothing. Raves and Acid House parties were a counterculture to elitist door policies on clubs in the 80s. Over 20 years on and we're back in clubs again being constantly hassled by security checking if you're on something, but it's okay to sell gallons and gallons of alcohol that turns some people into real unpleasant characters and ruins the night for everyone else. Ridiculous
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Dante
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Posted - 2011/04/27 : 03:54:47
I think hardcore needs to be breakbeat, and I don't mind it it slows down a little (rave breaks woohoo).
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tru bass
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Posted - 2011/04/28 : 00:06:44
quote: Originally posted by NekoShuffle:
The rave scene as a whole needs to be completely shaken up. House music used to be about liberation and losing it in a field off the M25, now you can't even get into a club playing house music without smart shoes and clothing. Raves and Acid House parties were a counterculture to elitist door policies on clubs in the 80s. Over 20 years on and we're back in clubs again being constantly hassled by security checking if you're on something, but it's okay to sell gallons and gallons of alcohol that turns some people into real unpleasant characters and ruins the night for everyone else. Ridiculous
Spot on.
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acidfluxxbass
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Posted - 2011/04/28 : 00:15:59
quote: Originally posted by tru bass:
quote: Originally posted by NekoShuffle:
The rave scene as a whole needs to be completely shaken up. House music used to be about liberation and losing it in a field off the M25, now you can't even get into a club playing house music without smart shoes and clothing. Raves and Acid House parties were a counterculture to elitist door policies on clubs in the 80s. Over 20 years on and we're back in clubs again being constantly hassled by security checking if you're on something, but it's okay to sell gallons and gallons of alcohol that turns some people into real unpleasant characters and ruins the night for everyone else. Ridiculous
Spot on.
I agree, the very image and reputation hardcore and some other genres has worked hard to achieve is contradicted. Underground raves, drugs and care free attitude is in so many songs, when in reality its the opposite.
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Phobz
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Posted - 2011/05/04 : 18:35:18
Out of all the hardcore set's i've been to my favourite was a cheese fest from force & styles downstairs at liverpool carling academy. All the new stuff is too like clubland stuff (plus the bmp is going down - what's that all about). I don't think I would go to more raves unless I know there is oldschool / happy hardcore.
Atleast 90% of the tracks I hear just don't have anything to them. Same shi*e different scores. Needing more producers actually bringing amazing tracks like dare I say: Darwin. Immense tunes. I think most the hardcore producers are actually producing for cash more than the fun of producing (Dougal & Gammer / Styles etc etc). They make tunes way too quick - no effort... when I hear something nice from them I'm usually suprised. That shouldn't really be the way I feel but I do.
Now if they make more tunes like Demo & Digital Illusion - Underground. Then I think I would be the happiest man ever. Not going to happen anytime soon tough!
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kathryn
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Posted - 2011/05/04 : 20:19:50
quote: Originally posted by Phobz:
Out of all the hardcore set's i've been to my favourite was a cheese fest from force & styles downstairs at liverpool carling academy. All the new stuff is too like clubland stuff (plus the bmp is going down - what's that all about). I don't think I would go to more raves unless I know there is oldschool / happy hardcore.
Atleast 90% of the tracks I hear just don't have anything to them. Same shi*e different scores. Needing more producers actually bringing amazing tracks like dare I say: Darwin. Immense tunes. I think most the hardcore producers are actually producing for cash more than the fun of producing (Dougal & Gammer / Styles etc etc). They make tunes way too quick - no effort... when I hear something nice from them I'm usually suprised. That shouldn't really be the way I feel but I do.
Now if they make more tunes like Demo & Digital Illusion - Underground. Then I think I would be the happiest man ever. Not going to happen anytime soon tough!
I don't think I would go to more raves unless I know there is oldschool / happy hardcore.
Same here
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Samination
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Posted - 2011/05/04 : 20:57:06
Paul, time to start producing again? :)
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