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Ionosphere
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Posted - 2011/02/02 :  18:09:21  Show profile View artist profile  Send a private message  Visit Ionosphere's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Smoogie:
ok sorry



I admire your enthusiasm but you need to get a sense of proportion.

I don't know if your research into the 'good old days' also describes the crap that was left behind by the selfish, pissed and drugged ravers after an illegal rave,

not just empty crisp packets and beer cans but crap, real crap, used condoms, tampons, needles and syringes etc etc. Not much peace, love and respect to be found there.... 8(


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Mortis
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Posted - 2011/02/02 :  18:14:55  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Mortis's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ionosphere:
crap, used condoms, tampons, needles and syringes etc etc.



Where we live that's considered a good night out.


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latininxtc
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Posted - 2011/02/02 :  18:19:46  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit latininxtc's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mortis:
quote:
Originally posted by Ionosphere:
crap, used condoms, tampons, needles and syringes etc etc.



Where we live that's considered a good night out.



or in some countries, dinner


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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2011/02/02 :  18:43:19  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Hard2Get's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ionosphere:
.... I just love the way that you completely ignore anything that doesn't fit with your misty-eyed view of the past

so I'll repeat it -

quote:
Originally posted by Ionosphere:

....people bought and played everything back in the day




*edit*

and no, this was never an 'anthem', ffs.



It's shit at best, certainly no better than average.

quote:
Originally posted by Dante:
Isn't breakcore distorted amens at 200bpm, and not much else? :p



Yeah they are very very different genres.

quote:
quote:
Originally posted by Ionosphere:
quote:
Originally posted by Smoogie:
ok sorry



I admire your enthusiasm but you need to get a sense of proportion.

I don't know if your research into the 'good old days' also describes the crap that was left behind by the selfish, pissed and drugged ravers after an illegal rave,

not just empty crisp packets and beer cans but crap, real crap, used condoms, tampons, needles and syringes etc etc. Not much peace, love and respect to be found there.... 8(





Anyone who's done drugs at raves knows they are just full of people who get completely messed up and actually have a real problem, in many cases.


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Edited by - Hard2Get on 2011/02/02 18:46:49
Revs
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Posted - 2011/02/02 :  21:15:36  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Revs's homepage  Reply with quote
Not Breakcore, nor Hardcore Breaks but -> Breakbeat Hardcore
And not even sure of that one, sounds a bit like Acid House or something...




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Luna-C
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Posted - 2011/02/02 :  21:22:10  Show profile View artist profile  Send a private message  Visit Luna-C's homepage  Reply with quote
I did a lot of raving in my time - never saw a syringe. Just saying lol.

People didn't play everything - but there was more interesting music because every record was "new". There were no styles, no divisions, just a huge amount of original music. So its not true to say everything back in the day was fantastic, but at least everything was interesting.

Also, this track became an underground anthem, but it depended where in the world you were when it came out. It also took its time - some tunes burst onto the scene and instantly sell well (Six Days) others trickle out, but keep selling and selling and selling (Piano Progression). No internet meant stuff was not universal - so while this tune was huge in London, it was probably ONLY huge in London - I cant see that it went off in Scotland, and the USA had no clue about raving, so certainly couldn't be called an anthem as we now know the word.
It should be remembered that a tune like this being big in London meant it probably outsold any one of the hardcore releases in 2010. Not a dig at modern hardcore, just saying size / sales figures were vastly different then and now.

Thats my 36pence worth lol.


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Ionosphere
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Posted - 2011/02/02 :  22:32:45  Show profile View artist profile  Send a private message  Visit Ionosphere's homepage  Reply with quote
....just in case you missed my full point -

quote:
Originally posted by Ionosphere:
This track wasn't particularly good but people bought and played everything back in the day 'cos it was all new. :)



at least we never thought that much of it and there was a lot worse but there wasn't much that wasn't played

and I'm guessing there's a good chance that at some point we were in Danny's shop the same time as you.... if only you'd known. You could have asked for our autograph.


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Posted - 2011/02/02 :  22:51:30  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit djDMS's homepage  Reply with quote
One word.

TUNE!


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Smoogie
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Posted - 2011/02/03 :  12:05:12  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Smoogie's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by djDMS:
One word.

TUNE!



Cheers


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The Doc
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Posted - 2011/02/03 :  23:12:17  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit The Doc's homepage  Reply with quote
Does anyone remember who did a remix, it was faster and much better than the original!

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Edited by - The Doc on 2011/02/04 00:14:05
The Doc
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Posted - 2011/02/04 :  00:11:09  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit The Doc's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Doc:
Does anyone remember who did the remix, it was faster and much better than the original!


found it The Speed Freek - promised land, awesome tune, 1993


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Dain-Ja
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Posted - 2011/02/05 :  04:37:59  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Dain-Ja's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dante:
Isn't breakcore distorted amens at 200bpm, and not much else? :p



Yep.

Calling this "breakcore" is blasphemy :P


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Posted - 2011/02/05 :  13:07:49  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit NekoShuffle's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Luna-C:
I did a lot of raving in my time - never saw a syringe. Just saying lol.



agreed, even nowadays at the warehouse illegals of the M25 and stuff I've never seen syringes either just a lot of that weird black rave-grime that seems to accumilate on the ground in places and ends up on your arse when you try and sit down.

never even heard of anyone jacking up at a rave tbh

I've never had a problem with anyone on drugs at raves, not even cokeheads. But drunk people...quite a few times. Sometimes wish there was no booze for the problems it causes


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Posted - 2011/02/05 :  13:49:00  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Hard2Get's homepage  Reply with quote
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Sometimes wish there was no booze for the problems it causes

Yeah same.


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Ionosphere
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Posted - 2011/02/05 :  16:21:11  Show profile View artist profile  Send a private message  Visit Ionosphere's homepage  Reply with quote
Agree about the booze but disagree about there being no syringes, not common it's true but it's depressing what you find when clearing up the mess in the cold light of the following day.... :-/



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