8D Advanced Member
Canada
820 posts Joined: Oct, 2009
Posted - 2011/01/13 : 21:10:00
quote:Originally posted by Mortis:
quote:Originally posted by Torpex:
UK hardcore (with related genres - freeform, brekbeat hardcore etc.) is fantastic at the moment. There's just so much good music around in obvious and non-obvious places alike. I'm really baffled why people focus so much on the elements that bother them (dubstep & electro influences etc.) rather than on the truckloads of varied and awesome music that's out there. If your favourite labels/artists are failing you, just seach out of the box a little and you'll surely find amazing sounds.
Future? I've never been this optimistic. :)
I agree 100% with this statement.
Theres tons of good new hardcore, it just isnt as easy to find as picking up the new bonkers every few months ;)
djDMS Advanced Member
United Kingdom
10,304 posts Joined: Feb, 2003
572 hardcore releases
Posted - 2011/01/13 : 21:18:22
Hardcore WILL survive, and be around for a while yet. The question is, what form will it take?
It can either be like it is now, feeding off whatever is big at the moment and sounding like a sped up version of what's in the charts, OR be reinvented in some way like it was in the late 90's/early 00's. I'd prefer the latter. Might go a bit quiet for a while but could be worth it in the long run.
Personally, i think it's doing too well at the minute to change. As long as the bigger events are pulling the numbers in the scene will just plod along until the top boys have either had enough or got too old. THEN, it'll go back underground and the up and comers waiting in the wings will finally get their chance.
Pity i'll be long gone by then!
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Warnman Advanced Member
Germany
2,677 posts Joined: Jun, 2010
Posted - 2011/01/13 : 21:22:11
quote:Originally posted by Mortis:
quote:Originally posted by Torpex:
UK hardcore (with related genres - freeform, brekbeat hardcore etc.) is fantastic at the moment. There's just so much good music around in obvious and non-obvious places alike. I'm really baffled why people focus so much on the elements that bother them (dubstep & electro influences etc.) rather than on the truckloads of varied and awesome music that's out there. If your favourite labels/artists are failing you, just seach out of the box a little and you'll surely find amazing sounds.
Future? I've never been this optimistic. :)
I agree 100% with this statement.
At least I can imagine that todays produced HHC-music will bring it back in the focus of the society. A lot of people still reduce HHC to the "succesfull" tracks between 1993 and 1997 (I need to include myself until last years).
It always have been the same discussion between undergound scenes and others in every genre. This "fight" will never end.
Every day I am tortured to listen to this crappy radio music, but I have noticed that more and more of these extreamly commercialised songs were produced by artists, who obviously have been (at least) inspired by Hardcore and Gabba genre. I don't think we should exclude Hardcore to Pop Music. I am risky to say so, but Darren Styles is one artist who can become a very important link. You do not have to like his style (I only like a handfull of his tracks and understand guys talking about Vocalcore or Popcore), but I think it's the best way to get people back getting interessted in Hardcore. And new persons mean new styles, new ressources of ideas, new inspiration, etc.
For myself, I wouldn't mind, if Hardcore would grap the old Acid sound. I don't talk about classic Acid, but about this kind of syntheziser sound, just like "M - Razzia" (OK, I know, it's not Hardcore). And I miss some of that rhythmn sound of percussion instruments, like the typewriter sound in "Music Instructor - Hymn".
Another possibility is that producers return getting inspired by New Wave, due the artists of the 90s mostly were growing up in this decade. I have no idea where elsewhere they had picked up these ideas. It is the only "happy" genre I can think of back in the 80s. Bluemchen (Blossom) never cheated the people by confessing that she had been totaly addicted to that German New Wave sound back then. Quite a bunch of her songs, simply are remakes of such tunes.
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Mortis Advanced Member
United Kingdom
7,493 posts Joined: May, 2004
341 hardcore releases
Posted - 2011/01/13 : 22:06:26
quote:Originally posted by djDMS:
It can either be like it is now, feeding off whatever is big at the moment and sounding like a sped up version of what's in the charts, OR be reinvented in some way like it was in the late 90's/early 00's. I'd prefer the latter. Might go a bit quiet for a while but could be worth it in the long run.
The late 90-00 reinvention was just a sped up rip off version of chart trance...so nothing new there.
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NekoShuffle Advanced Member
United Kingdom
1,480 posts Joined: Nov, 2009
Posted - 2011/01/13 : 22:15:27
No idea what the future holds, I know what it holds for ME personally but I dunno what plans anyone else has in mind.
I'd LIKE to see more happy elements, more cheese, more bounciness more all-round happy stuff, some breakbeats would be wicked too. Less of the hard bassline stuff and Nu-NRG trancey kinda stuff.
Hardcore is a small scene and producers/engineers/writers/vocalists are not built in factories, they are real people like you and I. The future is in our hands!
warped_candykid Advanced Member
United States
4,001 posts Joined: Jan, 2004
Posted - 2011/01/14 : 05:48:23
quote:Originally posted by NekoShuffle:
No idea what the future holds, I know what it holds for ME personally but I dunno what plans anyone else has in mind.
I'd LIKE to see more happy elements, more cheese, more bounciness more all-round happy stuff, some breakbeats would be wicked too. Less of the hard bassline stuff and Nu-NRG trancey kinda stuff.
Hardcore is a small scene and producers/engineers/writers/vocalists are not built in factories, they are real people like you and I. The future is in our hands!
ultraskool Advanced Member
Australia
669 posts Joined: May, 2002
Posted - 2011/01/14 : 07:06:18
Happy Hardkore will go back to that Oldskool drum sound. An example of this is
Jimmy J & Cru-L-T - "Six days" and "take me Away". with plenty of breakbeats - shall we say ' Happy Breakbeat'.
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djDMS Advanced Member
United Kingdom
10,304 posts Joined: Feb, 2003
572 hardcore releases
Posted - 2011/01/14 : 11:12:59
quote:Originally posted by Mortis:
quote:Originally posted by djDMS:
It can either be like it is now, feeding off whatever is big at the moment and sounding like a sped up version of what's in the charts, OR be reinvented in some way like it was in the late 90's/early 00's. I'd prefer the latter. Might go a bit quiet for a while but could be worth it in the long run.
The late 90-00 reinvention was just a sped up rip off version of chart trance...so nothing new there.
There was a big change in the scene though and that was the important bit.
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Dj Sc@r Senior Member
United Kingdom
488 posts Joined: May, 2006
Posted - 2011/01/16 : 18:53:57
really loving the fact the breakbeats and pianos with diva vocals are recently coming back more into hardcore! i just cant get enough of it!!!!
Dj Sc@r Senior Member
United Kingdom
488 posts Joined: May, 2006
Posted - 2011/01/16 : 19:33:34
quote:Originally posted by Dj Sc@r: really loving the fact the breakbeats and pianos with diva vocals are recently coming back more into hardcore! i just cant get enough of it!!!!
The Doc Advanced Member
United Kingdom
2,718 posts Joined: Jan, 2006
Posted - 2011/01/17 : 01:14:51
quote:Originally posted by Mortis:
quote:Originally posted by Torpex:
UK hardcore (with related genres - freeform, brekbeat hardcore etc.) is fantastic at the moment. There's just so much good music around in obvious and non-obvious places alike. I'm really baffled why people focus so much on the elements that bother them (dubstep & electro influences etc.) rather than on the truckloads of varied and awesome music that's out there. If your favourite labels/artists are failing you, just seach out of the box a little and you'll surely find amazing sounds.
Future? I've never been this optimistic. :)
I agree 100% with this statement.
me too! I think the last 6 months have been really varied and really good, artists big and small are trying different things to see if they work or not, sometimes good, sometimes bad, but I sense the scene is doing fine!
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The Dopeman Advanced Member
United Kingdom
1,393 posts Joined: Aug, 2005
Posted - 2011/01/19 : 09:03:03
Scotland made happy hardcore what it was in the 90's then happy hardcore ruined scottish hardcore thats why hardcore got so shit towards the end of the 90's then dissapeared then came bk with what we have today i think uk hardcore has to go back to the way scotland used to be...HARD!!! there are to much vocals in some uk hardcore tracks n with artists like darren styles bein featured on clubland then i would say take hardcore back to the drawing board coz darren styles aint hard in fact uk hardcore aint hard if u think about it uk hardcore has become soft look at the way holland evolved in the 90's holland was hard then it evolved and got harder and the uk done the same but got softer and shitter they shud call it snoozecore now coz i think the next 5-10 years r gonna b more of the same unless we evolve...LETS GET HARDER PEOPLE!!!!!!!!
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