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Dj Sc@r
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Posted - 2010/12/20 :  17:48:25  Show profile View artist profile  Send a private message  Visit Dj Sc@r's homepage  Reply with quote
mine prob be:

Recon
Darren Styles
Lost Soul
Chaos


and most improved - def gotta be Pinnacle


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Gisbo
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Posted - 2010/12/21 :  10:37:13  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Gisbo's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Dj Sc@r:
mine prob be:

Recon
Darren Styles
Lost Soul
Chaos


and most improved - def gotta be Pinnacle



and gisbo haha only joking



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Hoodzie
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Posted - 2010/12/30 :  20:31:29  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Hoodzie's homepage  Reply with quote
Hyperforce and all the GTYM stuff has to top it for me
D-Linquants
Gisbo
4orce dj





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Edited by - Hoodzie on 2011/01/04 23:05:59
kathryn
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Posted - 2010/12/30 :  23:10:21  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit kathryn's homepage  Reply with quote
359 days >

Till next christmas day


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Gisbo
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Posted - 2011/01/01 :  08:52:05  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Gisbo's homepage  Reply with quote
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Edited by - Gisbo on 2011/01/06 12:11:20
Thumpa
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Posted - 2011/01/01 :  18:09:39  Show profile View artist profile  Send a private message  Visit Thumpa's homepage  Reply with quote
Sorry only just looked at this and I'd forgotten I made the post. If people want my honest opinion, then sorry Gisbo but your production is a long, LONG way off. I went on your soundcloud just to have a listen to your new tracks but the first tune made my cringeometer explode. What are the vocals about in this track? http://soundcloud.com/gisbo/gisbo-skyz-real-raverbaby-raving-will-never-end

That track is terrible mate, sorry but it is. The vocals are absolutely awful and I think in a few years you will listen to them and think 'what the **** was I thinking?'

The problem with the internet is, all it takes is a few fanboys saying that a producer is great and the guy is gonna believe the hype. I don't make music myself and wouldn't ever start, but what I do have is an ear for good music. I can sort out the wheat from the chaff anytime, and unfortunately hardcore is absolutely full of chaff at the moment.

I admire the fact that you make a lot of music, but I think you should find your own sound and perfect your production before you put clips up. Quality over quantity any day. Your production needs thickening up and your style needs something that separates it from the rest of the generic 'not as good as Raverbaby' stuff out there, because there is so much of it about at the moment. I'm sure you're not trying to actively copy anyone else, but it sounds like you are.

I'm not here to argue at all, and of course you can tell me to piss off, but if you put clips up on soundcloud then you will have to deal with negative feedback, after all surely that's why you put tracks up? Feedback?

Also, I had a quick look at your album and there are far too many rips on there. Anyone can take an accepalla and put some gay riff behind it. It doesn't take any great skill and in a few months it will be instantly forgettable unfortunately. Do you want to be instantly forgettable, a shooting star that fizzles out after a few months, or do you want to be a respected producer? Not respected by the fanboys, but respected by the major labels, producers and promoters? If you are only making music for 'fun' then no worries, forget everything I've said, but if you want people to say 'that Gisbo is alright man' then I think you should sit back, spend time on a track and improve your production.

Anyway, I'm not up for arguing but I wanted to have my say and I never shy away from it. I am a good guy who runs a label cos I care about this music, so please don't think I am being blunt for the sake of it.


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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2011/01/01 :  18:41:59  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Hard2Get's homepage  Reply with quote
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and unfortunately hardcore is absolutely full of chaff at the moment.

Very much so, since anyone can pirate a copy of FL or Cubase and make a track they think is good, and with no potential loss from things like pressing vinyls and not making any money back, sites will take peoples tunes no matter how good they are as they can't possibly lose anything.
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Anyone can take an accepalla and put some gay riff behind it.

There is several producers i know of that can only produce as long as they don't have to think of anything original.

Also Thumpa I'm glad that you have a generally higher standard than most (well it is a normal standard, it's just that no one else has any). These days it seems anyone who can put out a reasonably well engineered tune (but has NO originality whatsoever) is instantly ass kissed, when all they are doing is what 100's have already done (basically a failed attempt at copying the Raver Baby sound).


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Edited by - Hard2Get on 2011/01/01 18:51:06
Ionosphere
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Posted - 2011/01/01 :  18:50:10  Show profile View artist profile  Send a private message  Visit Ionosphere's homepage  Reply with quote
+1

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This- http://www.discogs.com/artist/Ionosphere

THIS - http://soundcloud.com/ionosphere

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Dante
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Posted - 2011/01/01 :  18:56:07  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Dante's homepage  Reply with quote
I've paid for FL and several FL plugins, along with Sylenth \o/ Does this mean I'm a good producer? :p

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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2011/01/01 :  18:58:04  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Hard2Get's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Dante:
I've paid for FL and several FL plugins, along with Sylenth \o/ Does this mean I'm a good producer? :p



Certainly a more honorable one.


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acidfluxxbass
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Posted - 2011/01/02 :  00:17:25  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit acidfluxxbass's homepage  Reply with quote
Respect Thumpa for peacefully letting us what you were thinking.

I agree with allot of what has been said in that post....

However, I think Gisbo may struggle to swallow such a bitter pill. Having that be said about anyones music is a kick in the teeth, and Gisbo's very passionate about what he does and defends his music admirably. I respect Gisbo for sticking at what he does, and personally I do think he has his own style - aswell as exploring many avenues of music - but some of what Thumpa said has to be taken into account.

Gisbo's paving his path, and if people like his music, he'll elevate further - if not, I dont feel they should be quite as outspoken as Thumpa has been. Then again, Thumpa has a very stable, secure label, and that's encouraged him to be somewhat arrogent about matters like these. As you said Thumpa, it takes a few internet fan boys to create hype about someone; or his label or music. You in this context have pretty much all of USH

At the end of the day, this is music, and if someones passionate about it, let them be.


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Edited by - acidfluxxbass on 2011/01/02 00:18:58
Hard2Get
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Posted - 2011/01/02 :  01:17:47  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Hard2Get's homepage  Reply with quote
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However, I think Gisbo may struggle to swallow such a bitter pill. Having that be said about anyones music is a kick in the teeth, and Gisbo's very passionate about what he does and defends his music admirably.

Kind of but at the same time it's only one persons opinion and not everyone is going to like his music no matter how good it is anyway. Lots of people say negative things about peoples tunes and the fact Thumpa has said it doesn't make any difference, I'm sure he will agree with that. His criticism was more about the unoriginality i think anyway, which isn't a bad thing, no one ever gains any real success by copying someone else (and if they do it never matches the original).


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Mortis
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Posted - 2011/01/02 :  01:50:50  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Mortis's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
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However, I think Gisbo may struggle to swallow such a bitter pill. Having that be said about anyones music is a kick in the teeth, and Gisbo's very passionate about what he does and defends his music admirably.

Kind of but at the same time it's only one persons opinion and not everyone is going to like his music no matter how good it is anyway. Lots of people say negative things about peoples tunes and the fact Thumpa has said it doesn't make any difference, I'm sure he will agree with that. His criticism was more about the unoriginality i think anyway, which isn't a bad thing, no one ever gains any real success by copying someone else (and if they do it never matches the original).



Well said.


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Gisbo
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Posted - 2011/01/02 :  02:35:44  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Gisbo's homepage  Reply with quote
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Edited by - Gisbo on 2011/01/06 12:13:28
acidfluxxbass
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Posted - 2011/01/02 :  03:51:48  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit acidfluxxbass's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gisbo:
respect to people who are in it for the music !



only sentence I understood, but I agree


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