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ryg0r
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 Posted - 2002/09/23 : 04:41:58
What are the laws concerning sampling? I've made a kick a$$ track but I've use a sample from another Happy Hard track, and if I want it uploaded then I have to do the "legal" thing. I know that heaps of artists don't really care. (How many times have you heard Ultra Sonic samples?)
To put it simple - What should be done?
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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2002/09/23 : 05:26:58
What's the sample?
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Underloop
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Posted - 2002/09/23 : 05:39:25
You need to get permission from all the copyright holders concerned. In the case of sampling another track there will probably only be the 2 copyrights you need clearing. These will be the song copyright (this willshould be owned by the composer of the song, although it may rest in the hands of a publisher or maybe oven the label. Then there is the copyright related to the actual recording. This is in most cases owned by the label it is released on, although in some cases the copyright is retained by the composer and the track is only lisenced to the label.
There are a few ways of clearing the samples. One is to do all the legwork yourself... check the record sleeve for the copyright (c) and publishing (p) details. Approach the companies/people mentioned and take it from there. Alternatively contact the MCPS and the PRS in the UK and ask them for details and such.
Or, you could ask your lawyer to sort this out for you.
But, by far the simplest method would be to use an online resource:
www.sampleclearance.com
This is by far the simplest route. However, note the prices involved!!!
For a HHC release best bet would be to contact the original copyriht holders yourself... who knows, they may let you use it for free.
Another alternative would be to drop the sample from your track and use something original that you won't lose all income from teh track on.
Hope this helps,
Matthew aka DJ Underloop
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deejaybee
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Posted - 2002/09/23 : 06:13:18
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
u dont need permission to rip anything... do u really think that a record company is worried about u using a sample???
they are hardly gunna sue you for it if u havent released at least 5 thousand copies!!!
bahahahahahahahaha!
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Underloop
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Posted - 2002/09/23 : 06:29:13
uh huh, and with the current surge in HHC at the moment it ain't gonna be long before one record suddenly goes straight up into the charts. Just one, thats all it takes... and guaranteed it'll be one that ripped a vocal or some cheeky sample from another track. Just off the top of my head I can think of 2 tracks that went huge and had elements of other tracks in them.... Sesame's Treet and Raving I'm Raving. Best to cover your back, rather than lose all your royalties.... Another example, Bittersweet Symphony. The Verve never saw a penny of that track.
Another reason why he should seek permission is coz its a HappyHard track he's sampled.... doesn't make for an over long career if you go pissing off top people in the scene.
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silver
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Posted - 2002/09/23 : 06:34:10
Get permission trust me on this... As Nick from Blaze! (Smart-E) will also tell you...
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ryg0r
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Posted - 2002/09/24 : 01:39:36
The sample is from an old choon, Dj Isaac -
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StrifeII
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Posted - 2002/09/25 : 11:58:25
yup, happy hard is all about the scene chances are the sample came from another tune to the one you ripped anyway. they prolly wont care, but if its like a vocal from til the day you really should get permisson.
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StrifeII
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Posted - 2002/09/25 : 12:00:27
oh and listen to silver, he's probably right 
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