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Smoogie
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 Posted - 2010/10/02 : 07:05:16
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Originally posted by Yoko:
Good hardcore died after 2005. We all know this.
Thats what I have been tryijng to say the last 5 years lol
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Lilley
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Posted - 2010/10/02 : 07:29:28
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Originally posted by Yoko:
Good hardcore died after 2005. We all know this.
I have to say I really enjoyed PPF, and still do. Some great tracks on it by some underrated producers.
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nearly in line....
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Dain-Ja
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Posted - 2010/10/02 : 16:56:03
This track is awful
From an engineering perspective, the kick and is nowehere to be found, and the bass is anorexic. Mixdown is really bad.
From a musical perspective, the only thing I can find is an overused arp that goes through the entire song. It's pretty boring too.
From a songwriting perspective... The lyrics are awful. The tension is in the wrong spots and the vocal melody doesn't follow the expected progression IMO.
Lastly, the vocals aren't perfectly in key or in time, which is rather annoying to me. This was more common before the days of autotune, but the performance doesn't even sound good. She sounds like she has a really bad cold. She either had one, or she has a very nasal voice (or I guess they had a bad recording setup).
Awful.
Quosh definitely still has their own sound today. Their kick, bass and percussion is instantly recognizable. While I can't say I like their new tunes as much as the Quosh40-60 days, they're definitely well produced and well written songs. Far superior to this nasal abortion.
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Contraposition
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Posted - 2010/10/02 : 18:40:00
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Originally posted by Dain-Ja:
This track is awful
From an engineering perspective, the kick and is nowehere to be found, and the bass is anorexic. Mixdown is really bad.
From a musical perspective, the only thing I can find is an overused arp that goes through the entire song. It's pretty boring too.
From a songwriting perspective... The lyrics are awful. The tension is in the wrong spots and the vocal melody doesn't follow the expected progression IMO.
Lastly, the vocals aren't perfectly in key or in time, which is rather annoying to me. This was more common before the days of autotune, but the performance doesn't even sound good. She sounds like she has a really bad cold. She either had one, or she has a very nasal voice (or I guess they had a bad recording setup).
Awful.
Quosh definitely still has their own sound today. Their kick, bass and percussion is instantly recognizable. While I can't say I like their new tunes as much as the Quosh40-60 days, they're definitely well produced and well written songs. Far superior to this nasal abortion.
I know it's not a great track at all, but the reason why it sounds so horrible in the video is either because the the person is deaf and/or has no idea how to rip vinyl, or just pirated it. It's also extremely sped-up.
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Smoogie
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Posted - 2010/10/03 : 01:34:31
Funny because I put it on Facebook and loads of people liked it! All a matter of opinion!
Peace
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latininxtc
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Posted - 2010/10/03 : 05:21:44
It's not a terrible tune. I like it, but there's definitely been WAY better tracks from Quosh that have come after that such as:
uplift, cris e. manic & lukozade- 24hrs in Aldershot
insight- Caught up
insight- If That's Alright with you
mad dogs- rox like this
sy & unknown- techno harmony 2003
alter ego- i heard the jam
insight- only your love
dj kambel- no more joking
and i'll stop at 2005. i personally consider these greats from Quosh
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Samination
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Posted - 2010/10/03 : 08:56:33
THE PRODUCT OF THE DEVIL bitches :P
as I've said so many times before, I don't care how well produced a track is. It's about the feel to it. I think everyone's trying to be too professional instead of loosing up and make simpler tracks... maybe that's why most of us still like older (pre2005) stuff?
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Smoogie
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Posted - 2010/10/03 : 11:14:36
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Originally posted by Samination:
THE PRODUCT OF THE DEVIL bitches :P
as I've said so many times before, I don't care how well produced a track is. It's about the feel to it. I think everyone's trying to be too professional instead of loosing up and make simpler tracks... maybe that's why most of us still like older (pre2005) stuff?
Thats how I feel. I noticed around the mid 2000s people saying that the scene had come along way. The tunes sounded much more indeph and some felt the scene hit a peak. Many disagreed and left the scene for that very reason.
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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2010/10/03 : 13:10:30
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uplift, cris e. manic & lukozade- 24hrs in Aldershot
Absolutely amazing tune. One of the best of the 2000's. Good old Devastate knows how to engineer a tune!
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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2010/10/03 : 13:12:38
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Originally posted by Samination:
THE PRODUCT OF THE DEVIL bitches :P
as I've said so many times before, I don't care how well produced a track is. It's about the feel to it. I think everyone's trying to be too professional instead of loosing up and make simpler tracks... maybe that's why most of us still like older (pre2005) stuff?
People are trying to make what sells, music doesn't come into it, if it did we wouldn't have this problem.
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Smoogie
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Posted - 2010/10/03 : 13:23:07
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
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Originally posted by Samination:
THE PRODUCT OF THE DEVIL bitches :P
as I've said so many times before, I don't care how well produced a track is. It's about the feel to it. I think everyone's trying to be too professional instead of loosing up and make simpler tracks... maybe that's why most of us still like older (pre2005) stuff?
People are trying to make what sells, music doesn't come into it, if it did we wouldn't have this problem.
and when it dosn't sell good people leave the scene
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Dain-Ja
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Posted - 2010/10/03 : 14:53:34
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Originally posted by Smoogie:
Funny because I put it on Facebook and loads of people liked it! All a matter of opinion!
Peace
Opinion or not, the track is bad on many quantifiable aspects. Music is subjective but I'd say that many of your facebook friends that think it's great probably have some memories associated with it...
That vocal is brutal, surely you can at least admit that much.
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Dain-Ja
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Posted - 2010/10/03 : 14:55:01
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
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Originally posted by Samination:
THE PRODUCT OF THE DEVIL bitches :P
as I've said so many times before, I don't care how well produced a track is. It's about the feel to it. I think everyone's trying to be too professional instead of loosing up and make simpler tracks... maybe that's why most of us still like older (pre2005) stuff?
People are trying to make what sells, music doesn't come into it, if it did we wouldn't have this problem.
The bigger names might, but you can hardly say the others are. There's less money in hardcore than ever so unless you're in the top, it's hardly worth writing a track. To say that people just write generic hardcore for money nowadays wouldn't really make sense...
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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2010/10/03 : 15:02:17
They are copying everything the big names do in an effort to get a similar success. That's how the watering down of any scene occurs. And that's why there is no good Hardcore. People with even less skill copying already crap music.
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NekoShuffle
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Posted - 2010/10/03 : 16:23:47
I would say a big problem with how many up and coming producers try and make tracks is because they don't go to raves and tend to focus more on the technical side of producing the track. You really do need to work out what would go off on the dancefloor.
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