Contraposition Junior Member
United States
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Posted - 2010/09/18 : 16:24:51
quote:Originally posted by warped_candykid:
What is a sequencer? I've been told that Frolic mixed the 1st 3 on decks and 4-7 (8) on digital.
Basically he mixed in a DAW e.g. Cubase, Acid, Fruity Loops, and so on. It's easier (just adjust all of the songs to the required tempo, maybe even transpose, then slide them around until their beats match, add effects such as volume and pan for transitions) but arguably more time-consuming (editing). Personally I don't frown upon either, unless you mix it in a sequencer then lie and say you mixed on decks (physical or virtual). :P
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raindancerob Advanced Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 2010/09/18 : 17:56:46
i heard he mixed the first five & the eighth one on vinyl & did the rest digitally.
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Brian K Advanced Member
United States
8,663 posts Joined: Sep, 2001
528 hardcore releases
Posted - 2010/09/19 : 01:39:39
quote:Originally posted by Mortis:
Yeah I do. Before I started mixing myself I never really cared about how good the mixing was. Now I can't help it. If I hear bad mixing I will tend to switch off rather than enjoy it for the tunes. It's an illness.
ditto. if I hear bad mixing that's all that I hear...usually cringe and make a joke about it as well =P
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tru bass Advanced Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 2010/09/19 : 14:04:52
quote:Originally posted by Mortis:
Yeah I do. Before I started mixing myself I never really cared about how good the mixing was. Now I can't help it. If I hear bad mixing I will tend to switch off rather than enjoy it for the tunes. It's an illness.
I do exactly the same but I also do it with badly produced tracks..
I can't listen to some genres simply due to the lack of production/mastering skill..
Revs Advanced Member
Austria
2,584 posts Joined: Oct, 2008
Posted - 2010/09/19 : 14:57:49
quote:Originally posted by Mortis:
He also mixed the h2b hardcore albums using a sequencer rather than decks.
I didn't have the time to read the whole thread but all albums are mixed using a sequencer.. the only one I know that isn't is Timebomb - The Definition of UK Hardcore, I think it was Jon Doe (or perhaps Cube::Hard) who mixed it on the CDJ-1000s...
There's probably other ones aswell but stuff like Bonkers, Hardcore Heaven, Clubland etc is all mixed with software..
quote:Originally posted by Contraposition:
It's easier
Definitely not, it takes much more time... however, the result is perfect!
Mortis Advanced Member
United Kingdom
7,493 posts Joined: May, 2004
341 hardcore releases
Posted - 2010/09/19 : 15:29:34
quote:Originally posted by DJ Revs:
quote:Originally posted by Mortis:
He also mixed the h2b hardcore albums using a sequencer rather than decks.
I didn't have the time to read the whole thread but all albums are mixed using a sequencer..
Not when he "mixed" the first happy 2b hardcore albums.
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Contraposition Junior Member
United States
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Posted - 2010/09/19 : 17:52:58
quote:Originally posted by DJ Revs:
it takes much more time... however, the result is perfect!
I said that in my original post.
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MAtRiCks Advanced Member
Canada
1,059 posts Joined: Sep, 2006
Posted - 2010/09/19 : 20:07:01
quote:Originally posted by Sam Swift:
He did bring happy hardcore to North America. That's why he had a big fan base. What ever happened to him?
Yup, that's exactly it.
With H2BH, he made it possible for everyone here to go to any music store and pick up a Happy Hardcore cd for a reasonable price. You'll rarely stumble upon Bonkers, Hardcore Heaven or other UK compilations in most music stores in north america. The few stores that do import these albums sell them at ridiculous prices anyway.
The North American Hardcore scene's growth seems to have followed the evolution of the H2BH series very closely. The decay of the genre's popularity amongst ravers over here started pretty much exactly when the H2BH series ended, and when Hullabaloo was over in 2005, that's when it seriously started to die. Now it's unfortunately very close to nothing.
raindancerob Advanced Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 2010/09/19 : 20:08:39
anyway if i could give an award for the worst DJ ever he would win it hands down every time, a five year old could mix better.
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raindancerob Advanced Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 2010/09/19 : 20:11:40
quote:Originally posted by MAtRiCks:
quote:Originally posted by Sam Swift:
He did bring happy hardcore to North America. That's why he had a big fan base. What ever happened to him?
Yup, that's exactly it.
With H2BH, he made it possible for everyone here to go to any music store and pick up a Happy Hardcore cd for a reasonable price. You'll rarely stumble upon Bonkers, Hardcore Heaven or other UK compilations in most music stores in north america. The few stores that do import these albums sell them at ridiculous prices anyway.
The North American Hardcore scene's growth seems to have followed the evolution of the H2BH series very closely. The decay of the genre's popularity amongst ravers over here started pretty much exactly when the H2BH series ended, and when Hullabaloo was over in 2005, that's when it seriously started to die. Now it's unfortunately very close to nothing.
i dont think that the Happy 2b Hardcore CDs were that cheap, when i went to my aunties wedding in Florida in 2001 i brought them all & they were $15-$25 each from Best Buy not what i would call cheap or affordable.
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MAtRiCks Advanced Member
Canada
1,059 posts Joined: Sep, 2006
Posted - 2010/09/19 : 20:15:33
quote:Originally posted by raindancerob:
quote:Originally posted by MAtRiCks:
quote:Originally posted by Sam Swift:
He did bring happy hardcore to North America. That's why he had a big fan base. What ever happened to him?
Yup, that's exactly it.
With H2BH, he made it possible for everyone here to go to any music store and pick up a Happy Hardcore cd for a reasonable price. You'll rarely stumble upon Bonkers, Hardcore Heaven or other UK compilations in most music stores in north america. The few stores that do import these albums sell them at ridiculous prices anyway.
The North American Hardcore scene's growth seems to have followed the evolution of the H2BH series very closely. The decay of the genre's popularity amongst ravers over here started pretty much exactly when the H2BH series ended, and when Hullabaloo was over in 2005, that's when it seriously started to die. Now it's unfortunately very close to nothing.
i dont think that the Happy 2b Hardcore CDs were that cheap, when i went to my aunties wedding in Florida in 2001 i brought them all & they were $15-$25 each from Best Buy not what i would call cheap or affordable.
20$ seems like a regular cd price over here in north america. The main point is that it was still Happy Hardcore you could buy at your local music store, which is pretty much non-existent over here.
Frolic really isn't the greatest dj, but he certainly is a very successful promoter and event organizer. Hullabaloos were a real treat. Quality Hardcore parties like that are almost non-existent here in North America anymore as well.
raindancerob Advanced Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 2010/09/19 : 20:20:42
madness your CDs are expensive then lol i wasnt dissing him for what he did for the scene more his DJing, i mean just cuz someone does alot doesnt mean that they should get bookings when quite frankly they cant mix for shit. he should of stuck to the promoting & left the DJing side of things as he was/is clearly no good at it.
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