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Ken Masters Advanced Member
United Kingdom
3,447 posts Joined: Feb, 2007
Posted - 2010/08/22 : 20:10:02
I have a huge facination with learning the history of certain Genres of music & trying to figure out what it was that helped spawn these new genres. I love learning how one DJ/Producer/Group in one place helped form a new style of music in another & why it is that people strive to progress & re-work certain scenes & sounds to form something fresh & new.
Obviously Dance or even "House" music is an amazing example of this. From its roots in Chicago & New York in the Mid 80's it amazes me how it's progressed to the huge amount of Dance Music Genres we have today. I think it's a MUST that any budding Producers & DJ's looking to make their mark on a certain music scene, or create a new style altogether, should do their homework on the people that laid down the foundations from decades ago & what it was that drove them to do so.
I love watching music Documentaries & trying to get my head round just how certain pioneers went about doing something out of the norm & not just being another face in the croud.
Hip Hop has loooads of Documentaries. One of my favorites being 'Rhyme & Reason' & House has it's fair share 'Pump up the Volume - The History of House' again, being one of my favorites but I was wandering if anyone knows of any good documentaries made specifically for the Harder side of Dance Music. Something that would offer a bit more info on the influence that people got locally & abroad that helped form the "Hardcore" scene we are all part of today.
It would be great to watch short interviews from the pioneers of our own scene & see exactly what it was that got them addicted to Hardcore like the rest of us way back from when they first started out to the present, & what scene they felt a part of before Hardcore really took off.
Does anyone know of any documentaries of this nature, & I don't just mean footage of early raves but something a bit more indepth about the 'Hard Dance' scene as a whole. If there aren't any that are strictly Hardcore then why the hell isn't there! This is something that should certainly be put together IMO, & would really help up & comers in the scene get a better idea of where the music they love actually progressed from & even what new genres it spawned.
If you know of any DVD's or even just Youtube vids that you think i'd be interested in please post them up & i'll be sure to check them out, & i'm sure other people on here would be very interested in them also. Cheers
EDIT - oh yeh, & if you are posting Dutch Hardcore/Gabber Documentaries please make sure they are in English. I don't fancy having to learn to talk dutch aswell.
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Alert moderator Edited by - Ken Masters on 2010/08/22 20:25:04
NekoShuffle Advanced Member
United Kingdom
1,480 posts Joined: Nov, 2009
Posted - 2010/08/22 : 20:58:55
I will vouch for this too, seen loads of Acid House documentaries, bloody love em! Only heard Hardcore mentioned a couple of times and that was literally just name-dropping. I've looked around for some but it doesn't look likely so far!
DJ Lawlzy Advanced Member
Canada
520 posts Joined: Oct, 2007
Posted - 2010/08/23 : 03:36:36
Only vid like this I've watched is one on the amen break (it's not a genre documentary but it's the basis of many genres so... :P). It was pretty fascinating anyway! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SaFTm2bcac
Ken Masters Advanced Member
United Kingdom
3,447 posts Joined: Feb, 2007
Posted - 2010/08/23 : 15:29:14
cheers for the suggestions ppl, really appreciate it. Will be sure to check em out
I think a Documentary focused purely on the origins of Hardcore would go down great & I would love to be the first to make one, if I knew anything about making one! lol
There's always arguements kicking off on here about where Hardcore started & what the main elements were that made the Hardcore sound we have today. The Breakbeat/Jungle sound of England, The Bouncy Techno sound of Scotland & the Harder, Darker Gabber sounds of Holland/Europe. Not only did Hardcore conquer Europe in the mid/late 90's but it's an International sound now & just look at the amount of people from all over the world that come together to celebrate it. It certainly deserves it's own Documentary IMO.
Also, we better get some info/interviews from the old codgers before the side effects of all the drug taking really take effect & they can't remember their names nevermind where the scene evolved from!
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Alert moderatorEdited by - Ken Masters on 2010/08/23 15:44:23
Ken Masters Advanced Member
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latininxtc Advanced Member
United States
7,307 posts Joined: Feb, 2006
Posted - 2010/08/23 : 23:02:09
quote:Originally posted by FingazMc:
Not really what you after but its a good watch :)
wow that's pretty messed up that they were gonna beat him up just b/c he's from rotterdam! this man is a legend and it's ridiculous that ppl would hurt him over something stupid!
DarrenJ Advanced Member
Australia
2,626 posts Joined: Jul, 2003
Posted - 2010/08/23 : 23:42:22
quote:Originally posted by latininxtc:
quote:Originally posted by FingazMc:
Not really what you after but its a good watch :)
wow that's pretty messed up that they were gonna beat him up just b/c he's from rotterdam! this man is a legend and it's ridiculous that ppl would hurt him over something stupid!
The guy who does those docos dramatises it, here is a mock of him
Smoogie Advanced Member
United Kingdom
6,504 posts Joined: Mar, 2006
Posted - 2010/08/23 : 23:52:07
quote:Originally posted by latininxtc:
quote:Originally posted by FingazMc:
Not really what you after but its a good watch :)
wow that's pretty messed up that they were gonna beat him up just b/c he's from rotterdam! this man is a legend and it's ridiculous that ppl would hurt him over something stupid!
I have seen it myself. The Natherlands is very much like the UK from what I have seen & the rivaly between Rotterdam & Amsterdam was huge. Many early Gabber tunes from 1992 onwards where about Rotterdam being hard ect. Tunes like Amsterdam were dat den (Where's that) where a pisstake towards Amsterdam not being as hard as Rotterdam. It was mad back then!
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