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Don't you think Darwin was better back in the day?

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Audio Warfare
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Posted - 2010/02/02 :  08:56:02  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Audio Warfare's homepage  Reply with quote
Still liking a fair bit of his current stuff personally. :) Don't Be Lonely is prob's my favourite from him mind.

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Posted - 2010/02/02 :  09:49:00  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit DJ-Intensity's homepage  Reply with quote
His work with Cube::Hard on the first Hardcore Underground CD Under Pressure and the remix of Smack I like most of his choons.

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Posted - 2010/02/02 :  10:50:14  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Lilley's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hard2Get:
quote:
Originally posted by Palms:
My favourite Darwin track is Flaming June (Darwin Remix) - BT

Not sure whether that was made "back in the day" or not because I've only been into hardcore for about a year but it's a pretty cool tune.



Don't you not prefer the original? Was an absolute classic when it came out, i can still remember but was quite young at the time.



wasnt flaming june an old skool dance track? think its on one of the wild gold cd's, #2 disc 2 i believe.


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quote:
Originally posted by DJ-Intensity:
His work with Cube::Hard on the first Hardcore Underground CD Under Pressure and the remix of Smack I like most of his choons.



without a doubt my favourite hardcore cd. listen to it nowhere near as much as I should.


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yarrr, was by the awesome BT, who's new album is out this week! :D

i was also young, but remember it well, had a "dance hits" cd with it on along with Harmonix - Landslide and Sasha/Maria Naylor - Be As One on, also classics :)

BT has had a few other songs hardcore-ised too

Libra - Calling Your Name, and BT - Remember


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Edited by - Triquatra on 2010/02/02 11:13:49
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quote:
Originally posted by Dain-Ja:
I can't understand how 2007-2008 productions are "back in the day". We are in 2010.



Because with "back in the day" I ment "back when he started with it", it doesn't necesarrly (or however you write this) mean back in the early 90s...


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Whilst I am a huge fan of some of his earlier stuff ( Save Our Souls, In the End ) I'd struggle to note any negative quality variance in his work since. His production has improved markedly, allowing the effort, musicality and detail to shine through. Which is nice. Always an effort to work on a spread of styles, drawing on a range of influences, which is all too rare.

In 2008 you had stuff like Nothing There, Calm Me Down, Takes You Back, Come on Out...

In 2009 you had stuff like Let Me In Remix, Kickin Stuff, Your Own Destiny, Without Fear, I Know Where I Stand....

In 2010, well...... The premier stuff is being worked, and sat, on.

Patience, oh ye of little faith

That artist album shall be surfacing this year too, albeit not as might have been expected.

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I know he's a good guy, and I really appreciate him, especially for giving me his unreleased material for mixes and KraftyRadio shows, but I think if his tunes had a little bit harder kick they'd be even better :) Like the early ones! But wait, what exactly is deeper territory? Isn't that his alias for harder stuff? Maybe that's what I'm looking for!?

Edit: Checked out some tracks, and it seems like it's his DnB Alias? Tell me if I'm wrong please! Do you know some harder stuff from him? I remember I heard some of it once.


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Edited by - Revs on 2010/02/02 13:17:57
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If you're after "big kick" stuff, then you're probably in luck as he's recently finished a fair few tracks in that vein.

One verifiable example would be the Darwin and Entity remix of "Until the Day I Die" Clip Here which features briefly on the Kutski & Al Storm CD of HU4. Another would be "When the Sun Comes Out" Clip Here which was released via Rebuild Music.

My favourite example, though, is one of those things I'm sitting on. I could feign regret but it wouldn't be very convincing.

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I think its always an eyeopener when somebody lists work done by a producer, as over the years you forget the amazing tracks they have done...

Calm Me Down
Nothing There
Let Me In
I Know Where I Stand

He gets better year on year....and CDJay....

I cant believe you forgot to mention his....

Let Me Be Your Fantasy remix....that is sooooo good


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Posted - 2010/02/02 :  14:17:48  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Revs's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by CDJay:
If you're after "big kick" stuff, then you're probably in luck as he's recently finished a fair few tracks in that vein.

One verifiable example would be the Darwin and Entity remix of "Until the Day I Die" Clip Here which features briefly on the Kutski & Al Storm CD of HU4. Another would be "When the Sun Comes Out" Clip Here which was released via Rebuild Music.

My favourite example, though, is one of those things I'm sitting on. I could feign regret but it wouldn't be very convincing.

CDJay




That's better :) What's deeper territory now?


And yea, let me be your fantasy is a crrrrrrraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazzzzzyyyyyyy track!! I love it! But I love all of his Breakbeat Hardcore stuff =)


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Posted - 2010/02/02 :  14:25:58  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Hard2Get's homepage  Reply with quote
The original mix of Take A Ride (this version: http://www.hardbeatstore.com/mp3/16005-1-b.mp3) is still Darwin's best tune imo. Completely unique and dosn't have a cheesey Trance riff in sight (that's not what makes it good, it just helps). In response to In The End, the Cube Hard remix is an absolutely epic tune.
Of recent stuff When The Sun Comes Out is the best tune by an absolute mile, it's the only song that i've really liked that i can think of for years.


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Edited by - Hard2Get on 2010/02/02 14:29:41
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quote:
Originally posted by MAtRiCks:
The title of this thread put an amused smile on my face :P

I think that the oldest Darwin track I know is Take A Ride, and Gammer's remix makes it completely useless to even flip that record over and damage your needle on the original's side.

Apart from that, I'm not exactly familiar with Darwin's earlier works. I love Every Day and Love Isn't Easy, but those two songs aren't exactly some of his first either.

Oh and about Higher, Forever, are we discussing the track by Contraption a.k.a. Joost Boonekamp here? If so, what would that have to do with Darwin?



Darwin remixed higher forever a year or two ago and it was released by HU as a freebie.

I adore the Gammer remix of Take a ride. I used to hammer that.

Like CDJay said, Darwin is the genius behind tracks like nothing there, your own destiny, calm me down, don't be lonely, sunset blue, takes you back, go this way, future shock, etc. I can't think of many darwin tracks that don't impress me.

From the point of view of musical complexity and originality, his tracks are at the top of my list. Today, Darwin is to me what Cube Hard was in 2006, what Euphony was in 2005 and what UFO was in 2003-2004. Musical genius ;)


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Yeah, can't really say I agree with the original post. He's still churning out great stuff, definitely a skilled musician overall, not just producer.

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Edited by - Dante on 2010/02/02 16:20:06
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I never had a problem with any of Darwin's music; some of the cheesier songs I wasn't always a fan of, but his talent is nothing to play around with. Takes You Back is probably my favorite "older" track of his, and now my favorite track he has is probably A Way Forward or his remix of Let Me In.

Anything this guy does is ridiculous though--big ups to Darwin.

Edit: Oh, and Calm Me Down--amazing track.


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