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clarke101
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Posted - 2007/01/12 :  23:12:38  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit clarke101's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Ionosphere:
It's good to see so many reasonable and mature attitudes towards the supposed 'sin' of abortion and,

Jester, I enjoyed reading your rant.... I didn't even yawn, and I totally agree but,

and maybe it's just me, but

nobody has mentioned or questioned, at what point does a baby,

ie; a new Human Being, receive a Soul?


....for what it's worth, I reckon it's very close to when it's born....

so, any earlier and you're killing nothing.




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jenks
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Posted - 2007/01/13 :  00:16:41  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit jenks's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ionosphere:
It's good to see so many reasonable and mature attitudes towards the supposed 'sin' of abortion and,

Jester, I enjoyed reading your rant.... I didn't even yawn, and I totally agree but,

and maybe it's just me, but

nobody has mentioned or questioned, at what point does a baby,

ie; a new Human Being, receive a Soul?


....for what it's worth, I reckon it's very close to when it's born....


so, any earlier and you're killing nothing.




Not sure but babies/people are supposed to be able to remember things from the womb, music especially.


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Knightmare
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Posted - 2007/01/13 :  15:24:05  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Knightmare's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by jenks:

Not sure but babies/people are supposed to be able to remember things from the womb, music especially.



that's a theory, nothing is really conclussively proven about that.
It's very well possible that the music or the thought of it's positive effect only affects the mother directly whom in turn gets a slightly altered bodychemistry and passes it on to the kid-to-be at some stage.
Or of course it should be close to completely formed already, then I might be less skeptical about it.


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Posted - 2007/01/13 :  15:28:54  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit kathryn's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by clarke101:
quote:
Originally posted by Ionosphere:
It's good to see so many reasonable and mature attitudes towards the supposed 'sin' of abortion and,

Jester, I enjoyed reading your rant.... I didn't even yawn, and I totally agree but,

and maybe it's just me, but

nobody has mentioned or questioned, at what point does a baby,

ie; a new Human Being, receive a Soul?


....for what it's worth, I reckon it's very close to when it's born....

so, any earlier and you're killing nothing.




24 weeks




a baby is viable nowadays at 20weeks!


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