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US Government is involved in the attacks on 9-11

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Hardcore4eva
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Posted - 2006/08/04 :  10:21:36  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Hardcore4eva's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Hardcore4eva:
The Buildings are Built like that so that they dont crush even more buildings if they were to collapse!



no, the buildings where made to withstand a force 5 hurrican (if my memory is correct).
The video shows examples of fires, explosions, and other impacts that where made on WEAKER buildings and NONE of them ever collapsed.
Tell me, if a force 5 hurrican wont even bend it, how the hell does it completely crush against an air plane impact?

The official statement is the intenst heat from the fire melted the structure or frame, steal. Which is impossible and all explained well in the video.



Did i say anything about what the building could withstand????

I said they were built to colapse the way they did if it was toi happen!



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Posted - 2006/08/04 :  15:21:28  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit jenks's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Hardcore4eva:
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Originally posted by NeXuS:
quote:
Originally posted by Hardcore4eva:
The Buildings are Built like that so that they dont crush even more buildings if they were to collapse!



no, the buildings where made to withstand a force 5 hurrican (if my memory is correct).
The video shows examples of fires, explosions, and other impacts that where made on WEAKER buildings and NONE of them ever collapsed.
Tell me, if a force 5 hurrican wont even bend it, how the hell does it completely crush against an air plane impact?

The official statement is the intenst heat from the fire melted the structure or frame, steal. Which is impossible and all explained well in the video.



Did i say anything about what the building could withstand????

I said they were built to colapse the way they did if it was toi happen!





I think he just ignored that part because it was such an unbelievably silly thing to say ;)


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Posted - 2006/08/04 :  21:24:19  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit meshblorg's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hardcore4eva:
quote:
Originally posted by NeXuS:
quote:
Originally posted by Hardcore4eva:
The Buildings are Built like that so that they dont crush even more buildings if they were to collapse!



no, the buildings where made to withstand a force 5 hurrican (if my memory is correct).
The video shows examples of fires, explosions, and other impacts that where made on WEAKER buildings and NONE of them ever collapsed.
Tell me, if a force 5 hurrican wont even bend it, how the hell does it completely crush against an air plane impact?

The official statement is the intenst heat from the fire melted the structure or frame, steal. Which is impossible and all explained well in the video.



Did i say anything about what the building could withstand????

I said they were built to colapse the way they did if it was toi happen!





If that was true, why did they send Firefighters and Policemen inside to be sacrificed? Do you think anyone with some decent common sense is taking you seriously?


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Hardcore4eva
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Posted - 2006/08/05 :  08:01:58  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Hardcore4eva's homepage  Reply with quote
Did they know that they were going to collapse?? did i say that?? errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr......................................... NO

If u read one more time, u might understand what i am saying! When all tall buildings are built they are structured to fall the way they fcukin did, otherwise they would of flattened ever more shit if they went sideways!

If a plane goes into the building at near 500mph full with fuel! there is going to be some fcuk off explosions! Jet Fuel went through the elivator shaft which weakend the structure! It was just a matter of time!

If u wanna beleive the govenment fcuked u over, go for it. i aint saying it's not possible, just putting my view over, is that ok with u????


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Posted - 2006/08/05 :  10:32:31  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit SixFeet's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by meshblorg:
If that was true, why did they send Firefighters and Policemen inside to be sacrificed? Do you think anyone with some decent common sense is taking you seriously?



For a cover up there has to be victims to make it look plausible. Of course with the pentagon what was destroyed was a section that was being renovated.

Hey proof that the Pearl Harbor attack was known about quite some time in advance to Rooseevelt and even manipulated so it would go ahead.

I doubt every detail about 9/11 will ever surface and until that day people will just not believe that one man could do such a thing even though Hitler's reign of terror was only some 60 years ago now and very little has changed since then, just people in power are more subtle.

With 9/11 there are just too many things that just don't fit and the bush administration not allowing an independant inquiry or showing the public the CCV tapes they confiscated among over stuff, it just stinks of a cover up.


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Edited by - SixFeet on 2006/08/05 10:35:56
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Posted - 2006/08/05 :  11:52:57  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit jenks's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Hardcore4eva:
Did they know that they were going to collapse?? did i say that?? errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr......................................... NO

If u read one more time, u might understand what i am saying! When all tall buildings are built they are structured to fall the way they fcukin did, otherwise they would of flattened ever more shit if they went sideways!




No, they're not.


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Posted - 2006/08/06 :  07:34:00  Show profile  Send a private message  Reply with quote
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Everyone who is challenging the 9-11 conspiracy has not seen this film.

Please just freaking watch it before you try to create some explanations out of your own ass. Stop being prejeduce and ignorant. Ignorant of the contents of this film.



so, you're saying we're all supposed to believe what the video tells us? now who’s prejudiced and ignorant? =P

I watched it and I still believe what I believe, so I guess I'm prejudiced and ignorant as well =P


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Posted - 2006/08/06 :  09:02:59  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit clarke101's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Brian K:
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Originally posted by meshblorg:
Everyone who is challenging the 9-11 conspiracy has not seen this film.

Please just freaking watch it before you try to create some explanations out of your own ass. Stop being prejeduce and ignorant. Ignorant of the contents of this film.



so, you're saying we're all supposed to believe what the video tells us? now who’s prejudiced and ignorant? =P

I watched it and I still believe what I believe, so I guess I'm prejudiced and ignorant as well =P



I have also watched the video. While it does raise some interesting points it obviously only shows evidence that will help support the idea that what we have officially told is wrong.

Never beleive everything that the press tell you also applies to goverments and conspiracy theorists.


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Posted - 2006/08/06 :  09:51:46  Show profile  Send a private message  Reply with quote
if someone did manage to find proof of anything... they'd be dead.

i can imagine afew ppl have been killed already this way.



and no... they build buildings with the intention of them staying up!!

thats why they have professional teams of demolition engineers who spend hours and weeks calculating everything to make sure the building comes down the way they want it to.



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Posted - 2006/08/06 :  23:07:48  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit SixFeet's homepage  Reply with quote
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html

http://www.ccdominoes.com/lc/LooseChangeGuide.html


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Posted - 2006/08/07 :  19:55:41  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit meshblorg's homepage  Reply with quote
Ok I read up on those pages critisizing Loose Change. I never took Loose Change for 100% but I am not convinced that Jet fuel brought down those buildings even after reading that guide to Loose Change website.

The main reason why I cannot trust the government is because of Iraq, Venezuela (Chavez), Vietnam, McCartheism, and the list goes on and on.

One of the key pionts of the video is that it's too much coincidence that such a tragedy would occur just in time to save Bush's approval rating, increase war and security spending, and all the put-options and the insurance contract.

I'm not the one going to be so naive that there aren't a handful of people at the top pulling some strings.

Even if the terrorists did crash the planes, it doesn't seem in their interest at all. It seems purely in the interests of the militarial industrial complex, oil companies, the bush administration, etc etc etc.

Too much coincidence and good fortune for a few for me to believe the "official story." ANd with technology increasing, it should be only easier for coverups like this.


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Posted - 2006/08/07 :  20:27:14  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit clarke101's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by meshblorg:

Even if the terrorists did crash the planes, it doesn't seem in their interest at all. It seems purely in the interests of the militarial industrial complex, oil companies, the bush administration, etc etc etc.




If its not in their interest how do you explain the attacks on the US embasies and war ships like nairobi and the uss cole? Not forgetting the original attack on New York i believe also on the WTC.



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Posted - 2006/08/08 :  01:59:31  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Chris Deeside's homepage  Reply with quote
the conspiracy shit is a load of ********

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2070972464271621938

that puts the conspiracy theorys to rest




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Posted - 2006/08/08 :  02:24:58  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit jenks's homepage  Reply with quote
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the conspiracy shit is a load of ********

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2070972464271621938

that puts the conspiracy theorys to rest



Not really, it dodges all the difficult questions and ones that are even remotley hard to answer are answered with quotes from officials.


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Posted - 2006/08/08 :  02:45:42  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit The Doc's homepage  Reply with quote
in this day the media rule! and if they can get a story they will! at the mo they havn't and no government in the world will stop a story! the paper or chanel ect will keep going untill they get THAT STORY! so at the mo nothings happened! when it does we can all say its true! bit untill we have proof whats the point?

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