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kathryn
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 Posted - 2006/06/27 : 12:31:43
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Originally posted by Mortis:
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Originally posted by Kyle_Buffrey:
What I don't understand is the fears of the public related to drug use. Fair enough, I don't really do much drugs no more, only do the occassional bit of chang nowadays, but the way people have such hatred towards drug use I don't really know. Yes it can harm you, but that's often in the case of pills, for example, the only person that it is harming.
You are kidding right?
You don't understand the fear surrounding drugs? You think drugs only harm the user (pills I mean)?
Let me tell you, drugs are evil. Plain and simple evil. Every kind of illegal drug & alcohol too, destroys people's lifes. Not only the person using it, but it destroy's family's, friendships, work life, it puts everyone around the user under so much preassure that they can no longer handle the abuser's addiction. Half the time the only one who comes out looking sort of like the best in the situation is the user itself.
My family was ripped apart by drug abuse, the toll it took on my mum can still be seen today, and it wasn't her who was using. It's ripped through our family leaving no prisoners atall. Sure the drug was more than "just pills", but I've seen what those little bastards can do aswell....first hand.
Someone I know very well has had their family ripped apart by alcohol, with very similar effects to what happend to my mine.
If you don't understand the "fears" of drugs, then you need to get educated about them. I don't mean to sound harsh, but the first few lines of your post comes accross very ignorant.
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yeah i agree with you on that Mortis!
It dosent just harm the user it affects those close to the user itself!
I hope that one day you dont take a drug that fooks you up as your family and those close to you will have to look after you!
Maybe think about your gonna post and expect the reactions that your gonna get on such a reply as yours!
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Posted - 2006/06/27 : 12:42:44
Drugs are illegal at the end of the day, and they are always going to be that way. Alchohol is a very bad thing, and i drink it all the time. What's the difference between taking pills everynight and drinking everynight? Nothing, except one has more of a 'thing' about it. If drink was illegal, then everyone would be getting done.
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kathryn
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Posted - 2006/06/27 : 12:45:30
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Originally posted by PsychoticRaver:
Drugs are illegal at the end of the day, and they are always going to be that way. Alchohol is a very bad thing, and i drink it all the time. What's the difference between taking pills everynight and drinking everynight? Nothing, except one has more of a 'thing' about it. If drink was illegal, then everyone would be getting done.
I was referring to both alcohol and drugs!
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Posted - 2006/06/27 : 12:50:01
Sorry, i didn't read it all, lol. I was rushing. :P.
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FriedRice
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Posted - 2006/06/27 : 14:13:04
Haha this thread took a turn in the serious direction quite quickly didnt it??
MY cousin is/was a genius, drugs have ruined his life and i blame noone but him, it was his choice and he chooses to continue the blame sits squarely with him no question
Ofcourse i am sure in certain situations this view cannot apply but for alot of people its simple...its THEIR fault
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PsychoticRaver
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Posted - 2006/06/27 : 14:17:39
If a person wants to continue to take drugs, even though it's effecting them in a very bad way, for example, brain damage, then they will have to accept the blame.
If there is a reason behind them taking them, and their useing them as an escape, help can be found.
But, as i said above, if that person just takes them for the fun of it, and keeps taking them even though they know it's doing permanent damage, then that's they're fault.
That sounds really nasty doesn't it? :(.
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Posted - 2006/06/27 : 14:20:47
Bad?Pffft no, the mind is just like the body it can be trained and can learn and unlearn...Addiction can be kicked and i HATE when people point the finger elsewhere
I acknowledge that there can be underlying reasons for individuals to abuse drugs e.g. Socioeconomic issues or abuse or whatever but i still believe anyone can kick a habit
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Posted - 2006/06/27 : 14:39:13
Theres no right or wrong viewpoint to drugs - it depends on the people involved, e.g. A single guy goin out with his mates doing some lines of coke before he heads out and then smokin a doobie when he gets in...theres no harm in it as long as its not to excess and not done every night.
Although, on the other hand, you take a father of two, getting depressed with working his ass off just to stay afloat, finding comfort in a bottle then thats a different scenario entirely. Thats gonna harm himself and others.
Drugs are often just another form of escapism - if you want to do them all the time then you're obviously not happy in your life.
ahhhh.....cant be arsed typing anymore - you get the point (i hope!)
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Kyle_Buffrey
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Posted - 2006/06/27 : 14:40:43
Apologies to those I offended there.
What I am getting at, is that I don't believe in the whole idea of the nanny state trying to safeguard us all. I do have a friend that I used to go to school with, who is homeless as a result of heroin addiction. He will however, admit that his problems are of his own doing, he will not blame his family, past friends (who may have introduced him to it), or anything else.
It's your own responsibility to make the right decision for you and those around you. Laws shouldn't come in to it. People don't get caught breaking laws 90% of the time anyway.
Not only that, but we shouldn't hold anything against those who do take drugs, because they take drugs. We should tolerate differences, imo.
There's millions of muslims out there for example, who wouldn't agree with the fact that many of us consume alcohol, but most of them will let it slide, they aren't after killing us for us for it, despite what the politicians may want you to believe.
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Kyle_Buffrey
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Posted - 2006/06/28 : 10:05:02
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Originally posted by B.C:
Theres no right or wrong viewpoint to drugs - it depends on the people involved, e.g. A single guy goin out with his mates doing some lines of coke before he heads out and then smokin a doobie when he gets in...theres no harm in it as long as its not to excess and not done every night.
Although, on the other hand, you take a father of two, getting depressed with working his ass off just to stay afloat, finding comfort in a bottle then thats a different scenario entirely. Thats gonna harm himself and others.
Drugs are often just another form of escapism - if you want to do them all the time then you're obviously not happy in your life.
ahhhh.....cant be arsed typing anymore - you get the point (i hope!)
I do wonder if that was what I realised subconciously...... hence, I don't do them myself now. Well, there are better highs in life than ones which require chemicals I suppose. Positive thinking and action upon all parts of life will often result in better times all round.
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Posted - 2006/06/28 : 10:58:53
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Originally posted by Mortis:
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Originally posted by Kyle_Buffrey:
What I don't understand is the fears of the public related to drug use. Fair enough, I don't really do much drugs no more, only do the occassional bit of chang nowadays, but the way people have such hatred towards drug use I don't really know. Yes it can harm you, but that's often in the case of pills, for example, the only person that it is harming.
You are kidding right?
You don't understand the fear surrounding drugs? You think drugs only harm the user (pills I mean)?
Let me tell you, drugs are evil. Plain and simple evil. Every kind of illegal drug & alcohol too, destroys people's lifes. Not only the person using it, but it destroy's family's, friendships, work life, it puts everyone around the user under so much preassure that they can no longer handle the abuser's addiction. Half the time the only one who comes out looking sort of like the best in the situation is the user itself.
My family was ripped apart by drug abuse, the toll it took on my mum can still be seen today, and it wasn't her who was using. It's ripped through our family leaving no prisoners atall. Sure the drug was more than "just pills", but I've seen what those little bastards can do aswell....first hand.
Someone I know very well has had their family ripped apart by alcohol, with very similar effects to what happend to my mine.
If you don't understand the "fears" of drugs, then you need to get educated about them. I don't mean to sound harsh, but the first few lines of your post comes accross very ignorant.
Rant over, return to normal status.
well said man :)
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