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charlieee
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 Posted - 2006/04/29 : 10:14:39
nah i dont think it will b anything big probly just lyk the cube
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Posted - 2006/04/29 : 12:05:08
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Originally posted by Sk8SiM:
lol you've just sumed up how very little you know about nintendo and the gaming market on a whole lol  therefore you have no right to slag nintendo off lol... 
Nintendo are the worlds number 1, always have been always will be... 
number 1 since when? nintendo 64 was beaten in sales quite spectaculy by the playstation. gamecube came out later than than the ps2 and the xbox and yet was statistically in every aspect a worse console (hardware and sales. they made a huge lose i hear you say?)
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Originally posted by Sk8SiM:
Whats the worlds number 1 selling games consle???... ay?... ay????...
THE GAMEBOY!!!
technically true if you avoid 2 points:
1. what competition did it have? the sega game gear? the neo geo pocket?........
2. not the best selling. the original gameboy (only one called the 'gameboy') and all it's subsidaries named after it are but they're totally different machines. if you want to say 'the gameboy is the biggest selling gaming machine of all time' i'll say the playstation is when i add the sales off the first and the second together, totally different machines but the same name......
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Originally posted by Sk8SiM:
whats been voted number 1 game off time more then once??
The Legand Of Zelda!
just proving my point that only decent franchises ninny has going for it is zelda. i agree phenomenal game (not the best but definately up there) but still i'm sure it is part of the zelda franchise........
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Originally posted by Sk8SiM:
oh and where did sony and microsoft get half there ideas from???
You've guessed it... Nintendo
Nintendo gave birth to the home consle and portable gaming systems...
and where did nintendo get all their ideas from? atari? sega? commodore? spectrum? that last statement is the biggest piece of verbal diarrhoea ever they did neither
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Originally posted by Sk8SiM:
and jesus... your sitting there acting like grafix power is what its all about... 
lol... if you have followed nintendos plans from e3 2004... you'll have notised that there main goal wasn't about grafix... they wanna prove that grafix ent everything and bring in the crowds of people that have never played games before in there life... (i.e. your mom, your granmother ect) to be fair thats what nintendo are best at and they always seam to pull it off... 
few points:
1. i careless about graphics really but it is what you judge a console by, it's ability to process data. i don't judge the console by its software, i judge that differently. my favourite platforms of all time is still the sega master system and saturn even though sega are retards and can't produce/market a machine properly to save their lives
2. this is two points split into one. nintendo would be retards to have their target market as 40+ year olds, like 0.1% of people that age play gaming consoles and the second point is you're a drooling muppet for ever saying that. nintendo's target market are the younger kids 8-12, the etch-a-scetch part of the DS kinda give that away. hell even my science teacher knows that, she bought her 8 year old son one, when i asked why she didn't get him a psp she said 'well the DS is more suitable and aimed for young kids'. not really a point with a counter argument. look at the nintendo and rare produced games; a 'knight in shining armour' going to save a trapped princess from a castle in which she is imprisoned by a monster, sounds like a thriller guaranteed. won't need to quote the bango kazooie, conker, donkey/diddy kong series for more proof......
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Originally posted by Sk8SiM:
fact is sony and microsoft SIGN CONTRACTS for there games!!! 
nintendo make there own... and they have TONS MORE them mario/zelda...
go out... buy a gamecube and get super smach bros mele... perfect game for you if you wanna find out about nintendos history... be warned tho your gonna be blown away... 
nintendo tried to sign konami and capcom exclusively for n64 but failed, they signed rare exclusively. don't spew that shit. and i'm prety sure microsoft created halo (yes i know bungie started the project but got took over at the beginning by microsoft after they saw the game but that makes bungie a subsiduary of them and own everything they produce) and sony have made a fair few games and a shit load under other subsiduaries they own. sure you may say that microsoft and sony don't do much and they're still produced under another company which they just bought but track back to the NES and that is all that nintendo did. they bought a company but instead of letting them keep their own name they made it another department of their own to make them look more talented.
second point, you've named 2 games so far and only the two franchises i said yet you say them have sooooooo much more to offer, don't just give that shit then re-assert my point. don't now go naming the other ones i mentioned above, none of them were that big except the donkey kong franchise but that burned out on the SNES, the N64 version was shite.
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Originally posted by Sk8SiM:
Nintendo is about Games.... (always have been)
Sony is about technal
Microsoft is about Money...
you're an idiot, last i checked nintendo was a company, not a hobby. of course they're not about money. only sony and xbox want to be successful and make a profit, nintendo's aim certainly ain't to make profits to keep the shareholders in the business so it wouldn't go bankrupt, no sir. nintendo have whored out mario to no end as they realised he and zelda are the only thing they have going for them
stop suckling on nintendo's marketing department teet. fanboys are like extremists in religion, neither one you can have a proper debate with because whatever argument you put across they will just ignore if they don't have a counter-argument that makes sense and won't for a second even take the other sides point across. which makes what i've just typed in all of this pointless but hey, i like to debate and with monkeys it is rather easy. wanna try and just say i'm a microsoft/sony fanboy? by all means. of course would just mean shit. i own a nintendo 64, half decent machine, only games that are worth buying on it are by nintendo/rare so 6 at tops all the rest blow nads. i own a plastation. not as powerful as the n64 so not a better console but by far the better software so my choice out of the two. also own a saturn with some 30-40 games. shit console, some of the best games of all time on that console (panzer dragoon saga ftw!). playstation 2 was my favourite 'next gen' machine, not most powerful that was xbox but by far again more and better software for it even if the machine is the shittest build quality ever (i had 2, both broke). never owned an xbox, only game i saw that would tempt me would be halo 2 as all the others aren't exclusive to the platform (halo isn't exclusive, also brought out on the PC which i have it for). the gamecube? graphically poorest and also the worst of the lot for software (just to xbox). thanks but i'd rather not play mario golf or one of this whored out expansion shite and go for tiger woods series. what can i say, i'm not 6 anymore........
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Chris Deeside
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Posted - 2006/04/29 : 16:31:11
****in ell lad
essay^^^
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Posted - 2006/04/29 : 16:54:46
MARIO AND YOSHI FTW!!!!! :D
love the classics!!!
yoshi's island anyone?
mario kart?
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SixFeet
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Posted - 2006/04/29 : 18:31:46
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****in ell lad
essay^^^
well not really, only took like 5 minutes 
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Posted - 2006/04/29 : 19:01:55
Firsts things first :D nice essay mate :D you've made a few interesting points... but erm... first things first...
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Originally posted by SixFeet:
Nintendo would be retards to have their target market as 40+ year olds, like 0.1% of people that age play gaming consoles and the second point is you're a drooling muppet for ever saying that.
lmao... THIS IS THE WHOLE POINT lol...
Erm... I think your missing the point... take it you ent really been following the rev much then... lol
The reason they don't play games is cuse it "looks to complicated" the rev is gonna change all that and make games easier to play and more fun...
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Originally posted by SixFeet:
Nintendo’s target market are the younger kids 8-12, the etch-a-scetch part of the DS kinda give that away. hell even my science teacher knows that, she bought her 8 year old son one, when i asked why she didn't get him a psp she said 'well the DS is more suitable and aimed for young kids'. not really a point with a counter argument. look at the nintendo and rare produced games; a 'knight in shining armour' going to save a trapped princess from a castle in which she is imprisoned by a monster, sounds like a thriller guaranteed. won't need to quote the bango kazooie, conker, donkey/diddy kong series for more proof......
OMG!!! See this is what I'm talking about... Nintendo has always been "stereotyped" as being for kids... NOPE!!! You’re wrong...
Nintendo is for the "whole family"
The best example I can give is...
Nintendo is the "Disney" of the gaming world...
EVERYONE LOVES DISNEY!
Yes the plots and the scene is set for kids... but there’s always the adult sense of humour in there...
where as with Nintendo’s games... once again scene is for kids... but what about game play ay... have you ever sat down and tried to FINISHED everything in Zelda... or what about getting EVERY LAST STAR IN MARIO!!!
Tis almost imposable my friend!
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Originally posted by SixFeet:
number 1 since when? nintendo 64 was beaten in sales quite spectaculy by the playstation. gamecube came out later than than the ps2 and the xbox and yet was statistically in every aspect a worse console (hardware and sales. they made a huge lose i hear you say?)
Home console yes... oh and mostly in the UK... this is all cuse of the stereotyping... but your forgetting mate... its not just console sales that funds Nintendo... what about gameboy :D oh... and what about pokemon ay??? One of the BEST SELLING GAMES EVER!!!!!
Aswell as the Zelda titles... these just fly off the shelves...
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Originally posted by SixFeet:
technically true if you avoid 2 points:
1. what competition did it have? the sega game gear? the neo geo pocket?........
2. not the best selling. the original gameboy (only one called the 'gameboy') and all it's subsidaries named after it are but they're totally different machines. if you want to say 'the gameboy is the biggest selling gaming machine of all time' i'll say the playstation is when i add the sales off the first and the second together, totally different machines but the same name......
No... gameboy as a whole... gamboy colour... advance... ect ect.. All added up... it beats the lot my friend :D
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Originally posted by SixFeet:
just proving my point that only decent franchises ninny has going for it is Zelda. i agree phenomenal game (not the best but definately up there) but still i'm sure it is part of the zelda franchise........
Mario, Zelda, pokemon!, metriod, starfox, Donkey Kong F-zero, pikmin, kirby, earthbound, eternal darkness, the list carries on... and on... and on!!!
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Originally posted by SixFeet:
and where did Nintendo get all their ideas from? atari? sega? commodore? spectrum? that last statement is the biggest piece of verbal diarrhoea ever they did neither
Hahaha... what!!!! sega... hahahaha!
Nintendo gave birth to the "home console" back in 1985... Before that there was donkey Kong arcade in 1980 and before that they made trading cards...
As for Sony and Microsoft robbing ideas... humm ok... below I’ll list most stuff that Nintendo invented and then I want you to see what’s used by the other consoles...
home console, control pad, d-pad, shoulder buttons, anolog stick, rumble, the platformer game, four controller ports, racing games, future racing games (birth was f-zero), portable gaming, ect ect ect ect ect ect
Believe it or not they Evan invented "online gaming!"
Back in the days of the snes in 1991... Nintendo released an add on for it (Japan only) that could connect to a satellite and download extra games, add ons ect... like a 16bit remake of the 1st Zelda :D very nice indeed!
Oh and believe it or not... Nintendo sued sony a few years back for using a peace of technal they didn't have a right to use (basically stole from Nintendo) can't remember what it was but it was something to do with the dual anolog sticks... Nintendo won :D and fair play to them :D
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Originally posted by SixFeet:
few points:
1. I careless about graphics really but it is what you judge a console by, it's ability to process data. I don't judge the console by its software, I judge that differently. my favourite platforms of all time is still the sega master system and Saturn even though sega are retards and can't produce/market a machine properly to save their lives
nintendo tried to sign konami and capcom exclusively for n64 but failed, they signed rare exclusively. don't spew that shit. and i'm prety sure microsoft created halo (yes i know bungie started the project but got took over at the beginning by microsoft after they saw the game but that makes bungie a subsiduary of them and own everything they produce) and sony have made a fair few games and a shit load under other subsiduaries they own. sure you may say that microsoft and sony don't do much and they're still produced under another company which they just bought but track back to the NES and that is all that nintendo did. they bought a company but instead of letting them keep their own name they made it another department of their own to make them look more talented.
Horseshit!!! Remember resi zero for the gamecube? Originally meant for N64... so how could they have not signed capcom for it lol
As for konami... are you mad... Nintendo and konami have been in partnership for years my friend...
As for the whole grafix thing... gamecube was not the least... see most people (or should I say people that don't what there on about) judge grafix by what they see... in fact no... grafix normally is how "round" something is... not by the "teckchers"
See if you ever zoomed into say... Kirby (big round pink bobble) on smash bros... You’ll notice there’s not a spec of boxyness... HIS ALL ROUND!!!
Where as with other consoles you'll find there is always a spot of boxness (if not TOO MUCH!)... As for the designers not really caring about the work put into it... (Then again it takes a fag like me to notice something like that :P)
as for grafix and techers combined... resi evil remake on the gamecube was voted the most "outstanding grafix ever seen on a games console" at e3 2003 and by edge mag...
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Originally posted by SixFeet:
second point, you've named 2 games so far and only the two franchises I said yet you say them have sooooooo much more to offer, don't just give that shit then re-assert my point. don't now go naming the other ones i mentioned above, none of them were that big except the donkey Kong franchise but that burned out on the SNES, the N64 version was shite.
nintendo have whored out mario to no end as they realised he and zelda are the only thing they have going for them
well yes... there trademarks of Nintendo :D just like everything else... and all the others that they bring back... your forgetting that alot of people are fans of them... if they was to disappear... they would be alot of angry people...
its like saying hixxy, sharkey, dougal, scott brown, sy ect have been in hardcore for too long... they should **** off lol
^^^^if that ever happened... what do you think would happen to the scene... alot of people (including me) would be pretty pissed off
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Originally posted by SixFeet:
I own a nintendo 64, half decent machine, only games that are worth buying on it are by nintendo/rare so 6 at tops all the rest blow nads. i own a plastation. not as powerful as the n64 so not a better console but by far the better software so my choice out of the two.
Let me guess... you were one of them people that fort ps1 was better cuse they judged the FMV movies :D as for the gameplay grafix themselves... JESUS!!! I hated them.... they were so slow, unresponsive and just... mehh gay! lol
and I love people that try and clam that a game started on the ps lol... like THPS and resi evil for starts... these were BOTH released on the n64 aswell... just no one knew lol
And then there’s the people that clam Final fantasy and metal gear was born on ps... DUMASS'S!!! They were born on out very own NES back in the late 1980s :D lol (once again... thanks to Nintendo!)
And then there’s ofcource... GTA :D haha! NOT FOR PS!!! It’s a PC game end of lol... yet everyone bums off the fact it’s released on ps2 first... yes... TO GET IT OUT THERE AND MAKE MONEY!!! Where as there still working on the pc and Xbox (both the same thing IMO :P) versions... as these are the vamped up and full versions of the game...
And believe it or not... ps were originally meant to be an add-on for the snes... Nintendo turned them down as for the cheep use of CD's and the easy pirating...
Listen mate... we all have our tastes and our opin... my debate isn't about proving what’s better as that’s childish and stupid...
My debate is simply about getting the point across that without Nintendo... there would be no ps or xbox... no one ever seams to give Nintendo any credit for there hard work over the years... they have done HEK OF ALOT for the gaming scene (if not all of it) yet people just spit on them and walk on...
Where as I’ve been witness many times to sitting someone down and getting a ps freak to just play a Nintendo game on a Nintendo console (ofcource) and have them LOVE IT!!! Not cuse of the story... what you can do it in... But just cuse of how fun they are... Nintendo games are unique and stand out from the crowd... Nintendo put alot of effort into there work yet people still judge them as for kids...
See this is where the rev... (Or the gayname of wii) is gonna change everything... Nintendo has kept ALOT under wraps and let little info out about there next gen console (yet people are still judging it already :P hehe)... and fair play to them as they wanna keep this new idea to themselves...
Nintendo allows downloadable games from the past 20 years of gaming so people can see what Nintendo has done for the gaming scene... more importantly... its to get everyone involved with gaming and promote gaming to a whole new crowd and make the gaming industry a part of every household...
^^^this has always been Nintendo’s goal...
Yet what are Sony and Microsoft doing???
Oh yeah... the same thing they have doing since they were created...
They couldn't give a toss about the industry... its all about what stocks are written down on paper to them...
Although we've already debated about this before... I recommend having a little read of the past topic sixfeet... it’s a good read :D
http://happyhardcore.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=27775&whichpage=2&SearchTerms=ps3
As for me... I'm a pc gamer these days... I don't really do consoles that much but as you can tell :P I used to be one hell of a Nintendo freak...
but I will still always put up a good debate when it comes to what Nintendo have brote us... no one ever has the right to slag them off man... they have do alot and are respected by almost every game producer/market there is... this includes sony and Microsoft...
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Posted - 2006/04/30 : 00:57:23
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lmao... THIS IS THE WHOLE POINT lol...
Erm... I think your missing the point... take it you ent really been following the rev much then... lol
The reason they don't play games is cuse it "looks to complicated" the rev is gonna change all that and make games easier to play and more fun...
no the reason they don't play them is because they have more presing matters to worry about and are no longer entertained by playing computer games not because it is too complicated. adults will never be a target audience for a whole gaming console as they don't want to play it. i played with my dad a few times, only game he'd ever play was a racing game and only for a few laps then he'd get bored simply because it doesn't entertain him anymore. he'd prefer to be fishing or taking a walk in the countryside than playing a computer game. computer consoles became popular in our generation and PC's and the generation gap is why people struggle or just aren't interested with the new things which is the same for consoles with adults, they could careless
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Originally posted by Sk8SiM:
OMG!!! See this is what I'm talking about... Nintendo has always been "stereotyped" as being for kids... NOPE!!! You’re wrong...
Nintendo is for the "whole family"
The best example I can give is...
Nintendo is the "Disney" of the gaming world...
EVERYONE LOVES DISNEY!
Yes the plots and the scene is set for kids... but there’s always the adult sense of humour in there...
where as with Nintendo’s games... once again scene is for kids... but what about game play ay... have you ever sat down and tried to FINISHED everything in Zelda... or what about getting EVERY LAST STAR IN MARIO!!!
Tis almost imposable my friend!
nintendo sooftware is very child oriented, all the over use of colour and very bright. if you told a child to draw a picture of a something they wouldn't chose corresponding colours, they'd make it as bright as possible whereas an older more mature person would use the correct colours and if you offered the kid a game that uses relitively realisitic and 'dull' colouring they'd take te other very bright and more fun looking one like the mario's, zelda's etc
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Originally posted by Sk8SiM:
its not just console sales that funds Nintendo... what about gameboy :D oh... and what about pokemon ay??? One of the BEST SELLING GAMES EVER!!!!!
Aswell as the Zelda titles... these just fly off the shelves...
gameboys are a console and now that sony have realised the market for portable gaming consoles nintendo are loosing insales to them aswell. pokemon are a huge franchise aswell yes, again a very kid orientated game franchise from nintendo, when was the last time someone over 12/13 played pokemon? you're still solidifying my point that nintendo is aimed towards the younger age groups....
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No... gameboy as a whole... gamboy colour... advance... ect ect.. All added up... it beats the lot my friend :D
that's my point, they're different consoles from each other. the gamboy colour is not the same as the gameboy as it had colour and would not support the old gameboy games in colour so therefore it is a different console all together. just because they are backwards compatible doesn't make the same console otherwise ps1/2/3 would be classed as the same console. it is the most sold console range (as in all different variations of gameboy that have ome out over the last 15 years) but not the highest selling console of all time
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Originally posted by Sk8SiM:
Mario, Zelda, pokemon!, metriod, starfox, Donkey Kong F-zero, pikmin, kirby, earthbound, eternal darkness, the list carries on... and on... and on!!!
metroid have brought out two games and been going for 2 years, barely a huge franchise but they'r good games, could be on the way there.
starfox/lylat wars, well 2/3 games again and last one was a shitty appearance on gamecube, nothing of any decent calibre anymore
donkey kong i already mentioned, when was the last half decent donkey kong game? the SNES some 10-12 years ago
f-zero? hell those games suck on both SNES, N64 and gamecube
pikmin, i've never heard of it and i've owned all 3 nintendo consoles up to the gamecube and know a fair bit about the titles
kirby, 2 games and the N64 version sucks and i heard the gamecube version was shit
earthbound, eternal darkness? you're definition of a highly successful franchise is rather small, a few years in business and 2 games, don't even have to be decent?
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Originally posted by Sk8SiM:
Hahaha... what!!!! sega... hahahaha!
Nintendo gave birth to the "home console" back in 1985... Before that there was donkey Kong arcade in 1980 and before that they made trading cards...
what about atari's? several atari models were out way before the NES and is what the NES based it's technology on, the NES was just an evolved state of it, just like all the other systems today are just evolutions of the older models
the first nintendo system was the NES in 1985, the home console had been around for almost a decade before that such as the atari's, intellivision, celicovision, channel f etc
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Originally posted by Sk8SiM:
As for Sony and Microsoft robbing ideas... humm ok... below I’ll list most stuff that Nintendo invented and then I want you to see what’s used by the other consoles...
home console, control pad, d-pad, shoulder buttons, anolog stick, rumble, the platformer game, four controller ports, racing games, future racing games (birth was f-zero), portable gaming, ect ect ect ect ect ect
home console - no already discussed
control pad/d-pad/shoulder buttons - not sure, i'll take your word for it
the analogue stick - no that was the GCE vectrex (http://www.axess.com/twilight/console/detail/vectrex.html) analogue is freaking annoying anyways
rumble - the rumble pak i'm sure was the first
platformer game - ermmmmmmmmmm, NO! pacman was technically a platform game and that wasn't the first either
four contoller ports - true that it was the first console to ship with 4 ports built in but the 4 channel adapter for playstation was out way before the N64 shipped
racing games - erm no, there were plenty on intellivision, atari's, celicovision channel f before NES. pole position springs to mind as i had it on atari 2600 and a mate on the vectrex
future racing games - although i can't give proof i very much doubt that aswell, hundreds of thousand of games out before f zero, i very much doubt that it was ever the first of its kind
portable gaming - again no microvision 10 years before http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microvision
and epoch thingy-ma-jig 5 years before the first gamrboy in 1989
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epoch_Game_Pocket_Computer
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Believe it or not they Evan invented "online gaming!"
Back in the days of the snes in 1991... Nintendo released an add on for it (Japan only) that could connect to a satellite and download extra games, add ons ect... like a 16bit remake of the 1st Zelda :D very nice indeed!
not technically online gming as you don't actually play the game with other people, you just download them onto your system. and lets not forget that was in the very late end of the SNES (Satellaview signals were broadcast from April 23, 1995 through June 30, 2000), PC had already beat it to it
(Stormfront Studios' Neverwinter Nights, a game based on Advanced Dungeons & Dragons, launches on America Online. The Sierra Network launches and brings a variety of parlor games such as chess, checkers, and bridge online. Bill Gates is said to have played bridge on the service. http://internetgames.about.com/od/gamingnews/a/timeline_2.htm)
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Oh and believe it or not... Nintendo sued sony a few years back for using a peace of technal they didn't have a right to use (basically stole from Nintendo) can't remember what it was but it was something to do with the dual anolog sticks... Nintendo won :D and fair play to them :D
i doubt that, analogue stick had been used before nintendo and had been used in arcade machines for decades, they do not own the rights to them so unless sony used a specific nintendo developed component without authorisation as you can't copyright an analogue stick, that is like copyrighting a steering wheel in a car.
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Horseshit!!! Remember resi zero for the gamecube? Originally meant for N64... so how could they have not signed capcom for it lol
As for konami... are you mad... Nintendo and konami have been in partnership for years my friend...
you seem to be ignoring what i said. i said tried to EXCLUSIVELY sign capcom and konami, i thought i'd emphasise the most important part so this time you didn't miss it. they tried to make it so that konami and capcom could only make games for their platforms
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Originally posted by Sk8SiM:
well yes... there trademarks of Nintendo :D just like everything else... and all the others that they bring back... your forgetting that alot of people are fans of them... if they was to disappear... they would be alot of angry people...
its like saying hixxy, sharkey, dougal, scott brown, sy ect have been in hardcore for too long... they should **** off lol
^^^^if that ever happened... what do you think would happen to the scene... alot of people (including me) would be pretty pissed off
what the hell are you talking about? i never said they're shit or they should stop making them, i said they have been whored out and shit loads of crappy spin-offs have been made that it is verging on the ridiculous. the platformer of marios on SNES, N64 etc are some of the greatest games of all time. but for each of them there are another 4 shitty spin-off games because nintendo try to milk that fat italian arse of his for all it is worth
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Originally posted by Sk8SiM:
Let me guess... you were one of them people that fort ps1 was better cuse they judged the FMV movies :D as for the gameplay grafix themselves... JESUS!!! I hated them.... they were so slow, unresponsive and just... mehh gay! lol
let me quote myself here
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Originally posted by SixFeet:
i own a plastation. not as powerful as the n64 so not a better console
read that, read it again. hell you even quoted it, what does it say? it says the N64 was a more powerful console!! why are you just repeating me?!
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and I love people that try and clam that a game started on the ps lol... like THPS and resi evil for starts... these were BOTH released on the n64 aswell... just no one knew lol
you're going off the point here, i never mentioned this anywhere so why mention it? why did you list these two under the franchises that didn't start on playstation, thps was out on playsation before N64 and the original resident evil was never released on N64 only resident evil 2 was.
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And then there’s the people that clam Final fantasy and metal gear was born on ps... DUMASS'S!!! They were born on out very own NES back in the late 1980s :D lol (once again... thanks to Nintendo!)
again why are you pointing this out? i know all about the original final fantasys and metal gears. but i don't see where any thanks goes to nintendo, they had no input into creating the games, square for final fantasy and konami for metal gear nintendo simply bought the rights to host the game exclusively
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And then there’s ofcource... GTA :D haha! NOT FOR PS!!! It’s a PC game end of lol... yet everyone bums off the fact it’s released on ps2 first... yes... TO GET IT OUT THERE AND MAKE MONEY!!! Where as there still working on the pc and Xbox (both the same thing IMO :P) versions... as these are the vamped up and full versions of the game...
i think i need a Sk8SiM to english translator for this =/
i have san andreas for ps2 until that broke (shitty sony and their shitty build quality) and now have it for PC and both completed them fully and their is no difference, the biggest grossing and selling game of 2005, released on playstation 2 first, shows it is more popular by the fact that happens, you don't release the game on the worst then wait to release it on the biggest console. (suprising how gamecube didn't get a version hey......)
vice city was the biggest grossing and selling game of it's year and gta 3 was aswell and all released intitially on playstation 2 first.....
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And believe it or not... ps were originally meant to be an add-on for the snes... Nintendo turned them down as for the cheep use of CD's and the easy pirating...
it was never offered by sony to nintendo, they offered to build an add-on using discs but they never offered the playstation, get your facts right again. even if this was true, kinda shows how clever they were right, passing on the biggest selling console of that generation......
ever since sony came into it and now microsoft to a lesser extent nintendo has lost it's spot as top system. they don't move with the times and stay conservative in an increasinginly more liberal world. when was the last time a controversial game was released on a nintendo console?
they had their peak and chance at running things against sega, but then again i think if you put a piece of shit in a box it would out sell a sega console seeing as they have no idea how to market a thing.
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Listen mate... we all have our tastes and our opin... my debate isn't about proving what’s better as that’s childish and stupid...
My debate is simply about getting the point across that without Nintendo... there would be no ps or xbox... no one ever seams to give Nintendo any credit for there hard work over the years... they have done HEK OF ALOT for the gaming scene (if not all of it) yet people just spit on them and walk on...
without atari, intellivision etc there would be no nintendo. they were not or ever will be the pioneer of computer games. all computer game consoles are just an 'evolution' of the last; slightly better, faster etc
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Where as I’ve been witness many times to sitting someone down and getting a ps freak to just play a Nintendo game on a Nintendo console (ofcource) and have them LOVE IT!!! Not cuse of the story... what you can do it in... But just cuse of how fun they are... Nintendo games are unique and stand out from the crowd... Nintendo put alot of effort into there work yet people still judge them as for kids...
how many times have i said, i'm not a ps freak? i have owned a NES, SNES and own an N64 and think that some of the best games of all time are on those platforms but since the playstation nintendo has lost alot of its power, N64 although it had a fair few of the best games in it's generation, it had far less games in total than the playstation and those that were worth anything decent where nintendo/rare produced. there is like 6 that are now even worth buying on the console
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See this is where the rev... (Or the gayname of wii) is gonna change everything... Nintendo has kept ALOT under wraps and let little info out about there next gen console (yet people are still judging it already :P hehe)... and fair play to them as they wanna keep this new idea to themselves...
like you say, nintendo have kept everything under wraps about it and you don't like people 'judging it' already. you're both a hypocrite and a liar as you're judging it already saying it is going to be good, what you don't like is people judging it poorly as you don't agree with it which is basically what this is all down to, you just don't like people saying bad things about nintendo
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Nintendo allows downloadable games from the past 20 years of gaming so people can see what Nintendo has done for the gaming scene... more importantly... its to get everyone involved with gaming and promote gaming to a whole new crowd and make the gaming industry a part of every household...
^^^this has always been Nintendo’s goal...
Yet what are Sony and Microsoft doing???
Oh yeah... the same thing they have doing since they were created...
They couldn't give a toss about the industry... its all about what stocks are written down on paper to them...
you keep refering to nintendo like it is a freaking charity stop it! 'nintendo's goal all along as to introduce peace and harmony into the world through their gaming system whereas the vile playstation is just a sony ploy to hijack your brainwaves'. here's a little news for you; sony, microsoft and nintendo all have one similarity, they're a business and all they're concerned about is making money to keep the shareholders in the company so they don't go bankrupt!!
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I don't really do consoles that much but as you can tell :P I used to be one hell of a Nintendo freak...but I will still always put up a good debate when it comes to what Nintendo have brote us... no one ever has the right to slag them off man... they have do alot and are respected by almost every game producer/market there is... this includes sony and Microsoft...
don't worry i can tell you were a nintendo fanboy by the biased diarrhoea you've been attempting to type. i believe they have created 2 of the biggest game franchises of all times mario and zelda, have had one of the best consoles of all time in the SNES and have done a shit load for the community. i do also believe however they're a spent force with only the mario and zelda titles actually keeping people coming back to them and that it is now sonys turn to be the top dog until somone else comes along
from now on i won't be replying, i could care less. turn out more falacies favouring nintendo or just down right innaccuracies, claim nintendo in fact created the planet in 7 days not god you won't get a reply
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Posted - 2006/04/30 : 01:20:26
Why can't Wii be friends?
Can't Wii all just get along?
Some word association, because I accidentally deleted a really long post.
DS
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
That surgery game
That cheerleading game (kick ass)
DS's superiority over the PSP (in terms of sales)
touch screen
hardware innovation
THE UBER NIFTY Wii Controller.
Case closed.
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Sk8SiM
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Posted - 2006/04/30 : 03:59:32
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Why can't Wii be friends?
Can't Wii all just get along?
haha nice one  and yeah no worrys leto It's all shabba
i hold my hand out to you sixfeet your the first person to sit down and have a real good dicuse about this stuff (god bless happyhardcore.com )
gawwd theres no point in carrying on lol... would of made a wikid debate in the pub with a few beers... 
but not here... tooo much effort!!!! lol
as for metriod tho... it was first released on the nes... the 2nd was on the gameboy and the 3rd was on the sense... then they released one for the advance (that kicked ass!!!) and 2 metriod primes on gamecube... aswell as an upcoming one for the DS...
same goes for earthbound... first released on the nes... we didn't see it over here it was only released in japan...
and your right in terms of psp "only just" beating DS... but theres a perfectly good reason for this... DS has had a very very poor lunch in terms of games... devolpers are hard at work as we speak and on new sofeware for it... and theres ment to be a link between the DS and rev (mabie this will explains why production has been so slow for it)...
who knows??? e3 2006 is just round the corner so i guess we'll know it all by then...
and as for the birth of the home consle... the nes will always be classed as the first... as it was nintendo that "saved the gaming indestry!" as gaming wasn't promoted very well and it was classed as something that sticks around and didn't die......
Then the nes was release back in 1985 and it flew... i mean FLY BABY!!! right off the shelves... Atari and all the others wasn't really classed as consles... and the only decent thing for gaming back then was the arcades... witch was outside the home... where as Home gaming entertainment failed misrably and didn't have a very good start... i mean it toke you half an hour to boot it up from tape... and for what... a ping pong game haha
gawwd you've gotta love the old controllers tho :P big wheel thing and one button... haha classic!!! 
however the nes changed all of that... people wanted it... people loved it... and people still love it... this was the birth of the home consle and gaming as we known it today...
jezzz i've still got some retro add for zelda on the ness... it was sooo hyped and gay it was unbeleavable!!! 2 nerds sitting in a room going "have you seen the new nintendo mag!!!! herd about the legand of zelda" and then they start dancing around singing a rap about princess zelda, link and gannon... very chessy indeed... but hey... it sold like a storm...
and nintendo was making games before 1985... like i stated they relased donkey kong arcade around 1980 (this was an "ardcade game") lol
as for nintendo dying... they have been around since 1889 (as a card playing company)... so they must be doing something right
anyways... look what i found
http://uk.gamespot.com/gamespot/features/video/hov/p2_01.html
Explains the history of videogames from the very very begining!!!
ent read it yet... Might do tomorrow tho... depends if i feel that sad :P
Once again... hold my hand out to you sixfeet Twas Fun
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Posted - 2006/04/30 : 10:45:45
oh dude! shutup!!!! XD
omg six feet and sk8sim having an essay comp or something?
battle of the quotes LOL
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Posted - 2006/04/30 : 11:42:40
i reckon so long dat i couldnt b stuffed reading it all lol and the winner of the essay is ........
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Posted - 2006/04/30 : 11:45:43
http://www.classicgaming.com/museum/
that has the history of all the older home consoles, during 1980 atari were making profits of $2 billion anually. NES signaled the rebirth of the home console after the gaming crash in early 1980's.
just thought i'd give that link, very interesting read and brings back alot of good childhood memories
http://www.dfulmer.com/project/handheld_evolution/
http://www.axess.com/twilight/console/
also a fun read
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Posted - 2006/04/30 : 14:28:34
very very interesting read! street fighter with 56 characters on famicom!!! includes mario! wickid! game piracy can get sooo friken funny
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Posted - 2006/04/30 : 17:04:27
I've lost the point of this argument, but I think this kid would disagree with you that the N64 wasn't any good:
http://www.spikedhumor.com/articles/21213/Kid_Goes_Krazy_Over_Nintendo64.html
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Posted - 2006/04/30 : 23:12:24
im just gonna say that wii is probably the worst name for a console ive ever heard IMO
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