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SixFeet
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 Posted - 2006/04/09 : 13:50:36
em jay all i'm saying is there have been people with worse start to their life and pulled themselves together. just because you have a bad start doesn't mean you give up all hope and quit. i don't believe someones life is destined from birth, just because you're born with an illness and an unstable childhood doesn't mean your guaranteed to be a screw up. of course it doesn't help but with hard work and determination you can work yourself up out of adversity like many people have done, i don't take 'ohhh i have ADD and an unstable childhood therefore all i could ever be was a criminal screwup' as an excuse for any wrong doings someone does.
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Em Jay
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Posted - 2006/04/09 : 19:13:02
no, no, yes, 
I totally accept that, and to a certain extent agree :) But hey, who am i to say how people work?! i dont know this cammy kid from adam...
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mnmcandiez
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Posted - 2006/04/09 : 22:34:28
poor cammy:(
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silver
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Posted - 2006/04/10 : 07:03:43
69 days in jail would explain why he has not visited the site in a while, what an idiot...
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Underloop
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Posted - 2006/04/10 : 10:04:07
At least he appears to be making the effort now to sort himself out - starting by coming clean to the public as it were
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SixFeet
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Posted - 2006/04/10 : 10:43:45
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At least he appears to be making the effort now to sort himself out - starting by coming clean to the public as it were
sorry if i don't trust the compulsive liar just yet. he has made a step (that is if that whole story isn't a load of shite) but the hard part is to keep making them day in day out
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Underloop
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Posted - 2006/04/10 : 10:45:57
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Originally posted by SixFeet:
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Originally posted by Underloop:
At least he appears to be making the effort now to sort himself out - starting by coming clean to the public as it were
sorry if i don't trust the compulsive liar just yet. he has made a step (that is if that whole story isn't a load of shite) but the hard part is to keep making them day in day out
Agreed, thats all I meant, a step in the right direction as Ionosphere put it
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Posted - 2006/04/10 : 11:36:29
so u think he story is full of shit? underloop? nah i dont think so cause if u bn thought dat it's bound 2 have some effect on u n crap
n it must b true cause it was shown in court n crap n u can't really fake dat stuff cause u get urself in more shit, also the judge wouldnt b dat easily fooled cause he went to uni n studied law n all dis stuff n got a gud hsc mark so he is a smart bloke
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Underloop
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Posted - 2006/04/10 : 12:02:23
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so u think he story is full of shit? underloop? nah i dont think so cause if u bn thought dat it's bound 2 have some effect on u n crap
No mate, your misunderstanding me..... I just mean he has a long way to go before he regains people's trust. I don't know wether to believe his story or not.... only time will tell. I'm not saying it is crap though. Thats the thing with lies.... people end up not knowing what to believe!
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n it must b true cause it was shown in court n crap n u can't really fake dat stuff cause u get urself in more shit, also the judge wouldnt b dat easily fooled cause he went to uni n studied law n all dis stuff n got a gud hsc mark so he is a smart bloke
Having brains doesn't stop you from being naive by any stretch of the imagination. I've done more than my fair share of time in University (7 years to date) yet I still get suckered in. I also know a fair few legal types, and similarly they are just regular people. Judges in Britain too aren't always necessarily the smartest beagles in the kennels. Theres been so many stories of people being imprisoned wrongly, and proper criminals literally getting away with murder once they're up in court. Maybe things are different in Oz..... in which case I'm going to start looking for a job there!
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Posted - 2006/04/10 : 22:31:24
so let me get this straight....
he was canned for leaving ronchy photos of himself on other's cams in their own house, ... and then got beaten so bad they had to pull him out... (whos the bitch now?)*ehem*
Seems like to me that the music was his only salvation.
Maybe if he can get his whole head to work and try and acomplish somthing like a real hardcore artist, he might still be ok.
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mnmcandiez
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Posted - 2006/04/10 : 23:01:40
Do you all not feel somewhat bad for the guy though?
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Ionosphere
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Posted - 2006/04/10 : 23:40:04
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Do you all not feel somewhat bad for the guy though?
Yes, I do, but public humiliation is an ancient and well tried means off getting someone to pull
their head out of their own arse.
....and what's more, it's human nature, or at least the better part of human nature, to happily forgive and accept someone back into the fold
if they conclusively prove that they've changed for the better.
We can but hope.
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Chris B
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Posted - 2006/04/10 : 23:47:14
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Do you all not feel somewhat bad for the guy though?
aye i feel bad for anyone who gets abused and badly bullied, cant be easy.
but feel sorry for the lassies he's assaulted, can f*ck up there lifes having things like that happen to them. Is wrong whatever way you look at it
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Posted - 2006/04/11 : 07:52:20
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Do you all not feel somewhat bad for the guy though?
Why? He commited a sex crime, why should anyone feel sorry for the dude. If he changed his ways after the fact then thats cool, but you shouldn't feel sorry for the dude, it's his own punishment for a crime.
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charlieee
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Posted - 2006/04/11 : 11:07:00
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Do you all not feel somewhat bad for the guy though?
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yeh i kinda do only cause of wat happened to him b4 lyk if he was fine b4 and not abused n all dat shit then i wouldn't feel as soz for him.
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