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Matty K
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 Posted - 2002/03/10 : 02:21:44
Im a raver whos been raving since 94/5. I missed out raving from 1999 to late 2000 due to the lack of events available to go to.
Now Im well back into it, and have alot of time for FD etc etc.
BUT, can somebody tell me what all this freeform malarky is all about??
What is this a spin off from. What does it sound like. Tempo. etc etc.
Chances are I have danced my nuts off to it already without realising.
But just for the record, if you havent understood my question WTF is Freeform??????
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Oli G
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 Posted - 2002/03/10 : 03:59:42
If youve danced your ass off to sharkey energy k komplex or posibly kaos... you will have heard freeform
Its abou tth esame tempo as hardcore... posibbly 5bpm slower.. rangin around 175 (not when i play it mind)... its more techy.. more flowing... in fact
http://www.ghalebi.co.uk/oli/files/general.ram
Try that for size :)
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Matty K
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Posted - 2002/03/10 : 04:32:34
Cheers OliGhalebi, as it turns out, I did know what it's all about but obviously didn't realise it. Yes I have danced to Sharkey, Energy etc... But when I was in my peak of raving (97) this was intoduced to us as "Trancecore", with Billy "Daniel" Bunter leading the break-off, closley followed by Sharkey's debut as a DJ. Anyone know why the name change. Or was it just to confuse me.
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Oli G
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Posted - 2002/03/10 : 08:10:52
Yeah i have no idea why it changed.. or weather it did change.. or generaly "what the ****"... but its no known as freeform as far as i know
and i love it
:)
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Lixx
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Posted - 2002/03/10 : 15:28:05
It's called freeform because trancecore spawns images of cheesy club trance sped up to hardcore speed, and it isn't anything like that. Plus it incorporates a very wide range of influences from goa to techstep so freeform kinda shows that there's no one definition of how it's supposed to sound. It's annoying how many people call the trance rips on blatant beats and raver baby trancecore, yet another reason to differentiate between the genres.
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Dj Tripnosis
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Posted - 2002/03/10 : 18:37:26
wait a minute, i always thought Freeform was Scott Brown kinda style, Dj Kaos does Freeform?
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Lixx
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Posted - 2002/03/10 : 21:46:44
Scott Brown isn't freeform technically, just trancy, though some of his stuff does work well in a freeform set. Kaos's Go Mental Dark stuff can be considered freeform
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Dj Tripnosis
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Posted - 2002/03/11 : 09:21:41
ah, i see...hmmm so wait, what other songs might you consider to be freeform so i can get a well rounded idea so to say ?
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Oli G
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Posted - 2002/03/11 : 09:49:59
Anything on Nu Energy
The newest Bonkers series
take a listen to soundthingys on www.nuenergy.co.uk
Tilz... sharkey. k komplex. kevin energy... helix just some freeform produceeeers
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Lixx
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Posted - 2002/03/11 : 11:50:54
Well lets see. Everything on the Nu Energy label, everything on Go Mental Dark, everything on the DATA label. I guess 5-11 on the old Bonkers label. Everything on the new Bonkerz label. Everything on Digital Beats. Around release 12 through the latest (33) on Stompin Choonz. Everything on Romantek and Madness & Mayhem. Much of the stuff on FBI and FEDS is freeform as well but I'm not too familiar with those labels. The A side on Faze Freak 2. The B-side on Ultra Violet 3. The B-sides on JAL Premium 3 and 7. The Sharkey Hardlife LP (React LP 131). I guess all the releases on XY2 and FDN can work with freeform, they're just a bit slower than most. The majority of stuff on GBT and RSR is also freeform, though much of it is on the happier, bouncier tip. That should be plenty to give you an idea. Just head of to www.nuenergy.co.uk and check out the samples. Freeform isn't gonna sound plain trancy like Binary Finary rips or stuff like that, it's got a definite darker, more experimental edge to it and once you start really getting into it you'll understand what I'm saying.
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Oli G
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Posted - 2002/03/11 : 12:19:10
The above is an indication of why i should spend more time writing my messages :D
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DJ-SK8
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Posted - 2002/03/12 : 17:20:43
Ok just to clear a couple thing's up, free form is actually Trancecore, it's what newbies call it. I hate the name free form i don't realy know y thoe. So for my sake on this board let's just call it Trancecore, besides it makes more sence that way caus it's Trance & hardcore in 1.
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Lixx
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Posted - 2002/03/12 : 17:28:21
Dag nammit, that's my point. It isn't trance and hardcore. That's what the Raver Baby and Blatant Beats stuff is, that's why if trancecore didn't already refer to freeform, it would make sense to call that stuff trancecore. But a lot of freeform is not trancy at all that's why trancecore is an inaccurate or misleading term to describe the entire genre. Trancecore really causes nothing but confusion, so it would make sense for everyone to call it freeform, or just damn good hardcore ;)
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strychnine
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Posted - 2002/03/12 : 19:27:20
I think the problem is that "freeform" just sounds like one of those bulls**t prefixes that producers put on their work to make out as if it's some groundbreaking new genre, like "nu-", "tech-", "neo-", et al. When people ask, "WTF is freeform?" and someone plays them a sample, odds are they'll get the impression of it being "trancecore", since many of the sounds employed in freeform were borrowed from trance, and when someone refers to it as "trancecore" it'll sorta make sense.
Also, no one genre has undisputed claim to the unadorned "hardcore" tag. HHC, freeform, gabber all have close ties to that word, such that no genre can be simply called "hardcore". I've noticed that some of you UK peoples refer to HHC as such, but that won't work in other areas because of the popularity of the other hardcore genres (of the gabber family).
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Tyrant
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Posted - 2002/03/13 : 17:42:57
i usually call it freeform because a lot of the stuff i play doesn't have the typical trancey sounds... i can see why people might not like the term 'freeform' though. some of the earlier stuff could properly be called Trancecore... (Terranova, Back to the Top, etc...) but then there's tracks like The Bastard which take the hardcore sound in a whole new direction.
anyways its just a name i suppose. the music isn't in the notes
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strychnine
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Posted - 2002/03/13 : 22:04:33
Yeah the early stuff is kinda trancey, but I'm glad that it became harder and more experimental as Lixx described it. It's nice to have the variety in the kinds of sounds and samples used, and I love it when a DJ uses it all in his/her set, playing with the different moods and themes and really using them to work the crowd. Makes a nice switch from the constant upliftingness that you sometimes get with HHC.
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