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Hardcore4eva
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 Posted - 2006/01/27 : 08:14:17
HAHAHA! ^^ ROCK 'N' RAVE!!! 
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I think you have got me confused with someone that actually gives a FUK.....................
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1up
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Posted - 2006/01/27 : 13:19:30
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Originally posted by Underloop:
wardrobecore
nah ah! its cabinetcore.
rock'n'rave...sounds 1337
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Fishy
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Posted - 2006/01/27 : 13:38:14
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Originally posted by bulby_g:
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Originally posted by DJApollyon:
there are three sub-genres of Happy Hardcore. These are Upfront, Freeform and Breakbeat.
Not right at all.
Happy hardcore is a sub genre of HARDCORE as is Freeform and Breakbeat hardcore.
Hardcore is the actual genre that ALL the hardcore sub genres stem from... Unsurprisingly : P
Was just about to say it
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Evel
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Posted - 2006/01/27 : 15:16:37
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Originally posted by DJApollyon:
Softcore, Apple core and Rapcore? We'll thats the first I've heard of them and I've been into the music for a very very long time.
Softcore= softer Haardcore
Rapcore= Hardcore with a rap (or crap rap)
Apple core, somthing to throw at people (you eat the apple first!)
And Rock and Rave will also be known as 'Rockcore'
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dj_excy
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Posted - 2006/01/27 : 16:00:12
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Originally posted by von-X:
zombiecore
mmm different lol
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DJApollyon
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Posted - 2006/01/27 : 23:27:42
quote:
Originally posted by bulby_g:
quote:
Originally posted by DJApollyon:
there are three sub-genres of Happy Hardcore. These are Upfront, Freeform and Breakbeat.
Not right at all.
Happy hardcore is a sub genre of HARDCORE as is Freeform and Breakbeat hardcore.
Hardcore is the actual genre that ALL the hardcore sub genres stem from... Unsurprisingly : P
errr not right at all, and is the typical answer of a lifetime happy hardcore fan.
it has always been "Happy Hardcore" and will always be "Happy Hardcore". for some reason around 2000 when the scene went quiet and the music not as cheesy the scene was restarted (obviously). some buff decided that they didnt like the happy term and so stopped using it, others followed and now we've got a problem. "Hardcore" is the true word for Gabber and has been for much longer than Happy.
Take Hard House for example, a few years ago it went really quiet and became really trancy. Its like the Hard House lot deciding to rename it Hard Trance. You cant do it because the name's already taken 
I mean in a sense you could argue that Freeform and Breakbeat are no longer sub-genre but their own genres. OK most Freeform is still within hardcore boundries but stuff like the Finnish stuff is more like NRG but with a much higher tempo. Breakbeat is increasingly becoming more complex and sounding more like DnB. Artists such as Concord Dawn and John B within DnB tend to be making music sounding more like Hardcore Breakbeat. They're all mashing together and yet too many people refuse to acknowlege this fact.
OK perhaps I'm wrong about the "Upfront" bit but there are still three and they're drifting apart daily.
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DJApollyon
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Posted - 2006/01/27 : 23:33:12
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Originally posted by Evel:
quote:
Originally posted by DJApollyon:
Softcore, Apple core and Rapcore? We'll thats the first I've heard of them and I've been into the music for a very very long time.
Softcore= softer Haardcore
Rapcore= Hardcore with a rap (or crap rap)
Apple core, somthing to throw at people (you eat the apple first!)
And Rock and Rave will also be known as 'Rockcore'
and im sorry but that's utter bollocks.
Softcore? OK name me one tune you'd class as Softcore.
Rapcore? If you were to do that then effectively you'd have every genre under this new pidgeon hole but only the tracks with rap samples in. Youd have fatboy slim, scott brown, endymion, lisa pin-up etc etc. What about the ones with film samples, you gonna call that Moviecore?
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tunnelrush
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Posted - 2006/01/28 : 01:25:51
who came up with Applecore??
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jenks
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Posted - 2006/01/28 : 02:04:24
I was taking the piss...
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The Doc
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Posted - 2006/01/28 : 02:37:57
What is DJApollyon talking about? happyhardcore was a name given out to all the new cheesy stuff coming out in 96 (toytown, steamtrain ect) b4 then it was always called Hardcore! Can someone tell me what tracks today are classed as happyhardcore? The name has just stuck! The music we listen to today is HARDCORE! not HAPPYHARDCORE!
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jenks
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Posted - 2006/01/28 : 02:45:06
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Originally posted by [email protected]:
Can someone tell me what tracks today are classed as happyhardcore?
Darwin Feat. Ant Johnson - Climbatize
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jenks
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Posted - 2006/01/28 : 06:09:09
We have:
Hardcore
Happy Hardcore
Freeform
Gabber
Breakbeat
Speedcore
Darkcore
Terrorcore
Makina
J-core?
Industrial Hardcore
Noisecore
Frenchcore?
Bouncy Techno
any more for any more?
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Edited by - jenks on 2006/01/28 06:30:51 |
whispering
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Posted - 2006/01/28 : 07:50:31
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Originally posted by DJApollyon:
"Hardcore" is the true word for Gabber and has been for much longer than Happy.
You are wrong, there are several diffrent type of Hardcore genres, from several countrys. Gabbers like to call it true Hardcore and whatnot, but it has no base in reality. The Gabber fans often have no idea of Happy Hardcore, since they've only been exposed to the very mainstream stuff from the mid 90's. Also there is no such genre as Softcore, its a porn genre.
jenks, i wouldnt consider J-core a genre. I often use the word Japanese Hardcore or JHardcore, but i refer to stuff from a certain country, not subgenre.
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Evel
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Posted - 2006/01/28 : 09:30:17
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Softcore? OK name me one tune you'd class as Softcore.
Rapcore? If you were to do that then effectively you'd have every genre under this new pidgeon hole but only the tracks with rap samples in. Youd have fatboy slim, scott brown, endymion, lisa pin-up etc etc. What about the ones with film samples, you gonna call that Moviecore?
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Moviecore? What a great idear!
Softcore= Every track on Clubland Extream Hardcore 1, which is said to be the most badly rated 'Hardcore' CD that came out last year... The track 'Love Garden on Hixxy's mix, Bonkers 15 is quite 'Softcore' as nobody seems to call it Hardcore
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8
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Posted - 2006/01/28 : 12:59:26
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Originally posted by Evel:
Softcore? OK name me one tune you'd class as Softcore.
Rapcore? If you were to do that then effectively you'd have every genre under this new pidgeon hole but only the tracks with rap samples in. Youd have fatboy slim, scott brown, endymion, lisa pin-up etc etc. What about the ones with film samples, you gonna call that Moviecore?
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Moviecore? What a great idear!
Softcore= Every track on Clubland Extream Hardcore 1, which is said to be the most badly rated 'Hardcore' CD that came out last year... The track 'Love Garden on Hixxy's mix, Bonkers 15 is quite 'Softcore' as nobody seems to call it Hardcore
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I have to disagree with you there. People who originated hardcore, called it hardcore because it was harder and faster than anything else out. And surprisingly, the stuff on Clubland Xtreme is still harder and faster than let's say house or trance. Also, as when some real cheese was released they called it happy hardcore. I enjoyed CX too...maybe it was just me. It had some real tunes on there. A little too slow though, but I can deal with that.
What whispering said hit the point too.
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Edited by - 8 on 2006/01/28 13:02:12 |
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