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Biggoggs
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Australia
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Joined: Feb, 2004
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 Posted - 2004/02/16 : 09:13:15
Hi all,
I know you guys probably get a lot of threads from 'wannabe dj's', but I've been wanting to create (or edit) music for a while now. I have little to no experience in music creation (but basic knowledge in 'technicals'); I've chopped and changed wave files in Audacity, created a few mixes in basic 'loop' programs on pc and psx (stop laughing already), and listened to MOD files in SoundTracker while watching a strange matrix of numbers fly past 
Just to give a general outline, I'd like to 'spice up' old music, create new music (either by some tracker-like program, or recording samples), and maybe mix music on-the-fly. I'd eventually prefer to end up using Linux, but I'm more than happy to 'start off' with Windows-based programs.
So, where should I start? 
btw, I've been listening to DI FM's stream for a while (guess which one I prefer? [:P])- I esp. like "DJ Silver's mixes. Many times I find myself listening for hours at night in front of the computer, and still have the beats thumping away inside my head the next day. I know I'm on something good when I can't drag myself away from the computer, and when I do, I don't want to turn the music off- You guys rock
Cheers for now,
/Biggoggs
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Seany
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United Kingdom
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 Posted - 2004/02/16 : 09:38:15
Get yaself Fruitypoop for starters :)...You can get a demo at www.fruityloops.net :)
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marcloage
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 2004/02/18 : 11:19:35
Well ive got Fruity Loops 4, sound pro and acid pro and they do me ok for now.
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StrifeII
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Posted - 2004/02/18 : 16:11:19
acid pro is only really good for chopping up loops, and you need 3 or 4 really because the timing sucks on 1-2. Fruityloops is indeed a good program to learn on because its so easy to use, however learning some or all of cubase early on could be beneficial. its much harder to learn if you know FL like the back of your hand because you're so used to it and they are 2 very different programs.
The best thing to do would be to download a load of hardcore samples and some 909 kits etc, have a mess around with them and see what you can do. Best of luck to you and hope you enjoy your time as a producer. And yes - FL is much easier than SoundTracker - i still ain't figured it out :P
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Shade0
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United Kingdom
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Joined: Jan, 2004
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Posted - 2004/02/18 : 17:51:15
suggestion is the concept of EJAY. create yourself some samples and use a sampler.
Chris.SHADE
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dj mull
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Ireland
163 posts
Joined: Feb, 2004
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Posted - 2004/02/18 : 21:40:05
hey all
does anyone have any recommendations for sum 1 startin out creating hardcore. regarding samplers, synths, pc programmes etc
where can u get cheap 2nd hand gear? i've heard the roland juno 106 and the jp8000 are good as well as the nord lead,
help or suggestions would b appreciated
cheers!!
martin mullen
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Seany
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 2004/02/18 : 21:52:23
If your just "starting" out get FL ....If you want to go straight ahead n get some gear ,Try Ebay i suppose for some second hand stuff....
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DJ Phoenix
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Posted - 2004/02/19 : 17:55:40
what did you use to make Rock the Jam Smilee? It's bangin' and shows that it's possible to make great tracks with a little effort... I wanna do great tracks too!!! lol
i was thinking about buying this music-making thing (like ejay) in my local GAME store... (can't find any elsewhere) but i don't know if i'll be able to make good tracks through these types of programs
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Seany
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Posted - 2004/02/19 : 18:19:07
:o ...What do you mean little effort? I put a heck lot of effort into my tunes! :)...I produce in Cubase :)
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DJ Phoenix
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Posted - 2004/02/19 : 18:33:15
no, i meant a little hard work... you know what i mean! 
anyway, it's probably all worth the effort now as it's gonna be a certain hit! lol... *crosses fingers for luck*
oh, and is that cubase.com? (should i buy a program or use an online one?)
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Seany
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Posted - 2004/02/19 : 18:36:59
Its Cubase.net :)...Yeah buy one! like i bought one :P(Sarcasm alert ,haha)
It takes quite alot of time to make good tunes! ,Thanks to some very helpful people i have progressed faster than i would have! :) ....Dont touch ,Ejay..Get FL..You can do the same thing with FL and Cubase Except ,Cubase is more advanced :)...And i wouldnt advise starting out in it as i suppose it would be very hard to learn :)
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DJ Phoenix
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Posted - 2004/02/19 : 19:47:26
so you're saying check out FL first? Then go on to Cubase?
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DJ Phoenix
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Posted - 2004/02/19 : 19:56:35
i take it you have to buy these programs then? or can you just download them?
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Seany
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Posted - 2004/02/19 : 20:06:48
Well..I got mine from a source i cannot say on here :\ ..
But yeah...Get FL first Then Cubase..(If your serious),Or Reason :)
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DJ Phoenix
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Posted - 2004/02/19 : 21:12:20
Reason?
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Take It To The Limit, You Can Take It To The Top,
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Seany
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Posted - 2004/02/19 : 21:16:13
Yeah...Another music creating prog like FL & Cubase...except is better than FL and just about as good as Cubase...well is as good except the audio quality i hear...
http://www.propellerheads.de/index.php3
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