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DJ Pathfinder
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 Posted - 2002/05/28 : 10:58:11
nasenbuten did some track on the cheapcore ep on strike farts very poor song.
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Soren
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Posted - 2002/05/29 : 04:41:56
Yes, I've heard "sexcore" or "porncore" or whatever. Not for at least 5 years. There used to be a bunch of really fast/hard tracks with all kinda pron samples in it. My friend DJ Red 5 used to spin that and Jungle. Samles were like (from the few I remember)(and slightly edited):
"Darling come here, "f" me up the "a$$""
"2 girls, 2 gorgeous girls "f"ing each other with a 12" %^$"
"All I want is to %$@* on your face"
and stuff like that. Really dumb, but pretty darned funny.
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Elysium
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Posted - 2002/05/29 : 12:23:49
You should check out Pornosonic (not hardcore), they've got Ron Jermey saying "Okay class. Our final exam will be coming up at the end of this week. The test will be comprised of 20% written, 30% oral and 50%.. anal. Any questions?" 
btw, what the hell is "trancecore" and "breakcore"? Trance and breakbeat?
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Soren
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Posted - 2002/06/03 : 07:44:24
Whenever you see the word "core" it means they sped something up 30 BPM. Just take off "core" and you know what kind of music it it, then add 30 BPM for the "core" part and BAM you got it.
Like trancecore is just trance at 170 BPM. Instead of 140 BPM. Etc...
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Lixx
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Posted - 2002/06/11 : 21:18:23
^^^
If that wasn't a joke you can consider me ROFLMAO 
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Soren
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Posted - 2002/06/14 : 21:55:56
If what wasn't a joke? :)
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pacman
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Posted - 2002/06/15 : 17:36:56
oldskool: you ever tried dancing to the ultimate sextrack? the song pornostar by boogie knights is a sleazy commercial "dance" track that IMO sucks. the only two other songs i know that use this kind of thing are: lil louis - french kiss, and armand van helden - entra mi casa. both serious house tracks where it works very nicely.
"Whenever you see the word "core" it means they sped something up 30 BPM. Just take off "core" and you know what kind of music it it, then add 30 BPM for the "core" part and BAM you got it.
Like trancecore is just trance at 170 BPM. Instead of 140 BPM. Etc..."
pffffft trancecore is not like trance sped up!!!! not at all. breakcore is nothing like breaks sped up. is hardcore just fasted "hard"? and happycore faster "happy"?
you're saying these whole genres are just completely ripped off other styles by making them faster.
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Lixx
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Posted - 2002/06/17 : 21:38:14
quote:
Originally posted by Soren:
If what wasn't a joke? :)
"Like trancecore is just trance at 170 BPM. Instead of 140 BPM. Etc..."
If you believe this I've got some nice coastal real estate in Montana to sell you
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Dragalian
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Posted - 2002/06/18 : 09:24:06
Just imagine if Nick redid Shooting Star to:
Bang! (really though) - Porno Star
I can hear it now...
"Like a Porno Star... Across the bed I lye..."
PANTS!!!
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Pandora
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Posted - 2002/06/18 : 09:43:38
I know this isn't on the topic but I have a question....why does the originator of this topic "oldskool" have minus 973 posts? How is that possible? And in his profile he calls him self Ron D. Core....from Australia....anyone from the states at least Ca knows Ron is a local DJ....or has he moved? I doubt it though.
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silver
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Posted - 2002/06/18 : 21:33:26
Pandora: That's what happens when you post for the sake of getting more stars.
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Weird Fish
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Posted - 2002/06/19 : 05:02:48
quote:
Originally posted by Dragalian:
Just imagine if Nick redid Shooting Star to:
Bang! (really though) - Porno Star
I can hear it now...
"Like a Porno Star... Across the bed I lye..."
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.....
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junglecat
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Posted - 2002/06/19 : 20:59:15
i think "sexcore" would be stupid. i mean, where's the happy in it? 
hooray for commander keen! (ah, the 80's)
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Soren
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Posted - 2002/07/26 : 08:29:48
"pffffft trancecore is not like trance sped up!!!! not at all."
Ummm... yes, yes it is. Maybe not current "Deep Progressive Trance" just sped up, but Trancecore is exactly like older trance just sped up. Newer Trancecore sounds almost exactly like a ton of older hard and hard-minimal trance just sped up and that's where it came from. Trancecore happened when people slowly pushed the BPM of older trance higher and higher, and then the "mainstream" calmed down and a small faction just pushed the BPMs more and it became trancecore. I was there and I have the records to prove it. In fact I have heard several new trancecore songs that are just direct rippoffs or remixes of older trance songs.
"breakcore is nothing like breaks sped up. is hardcore just fasted "hard"? and happycore faster "happy"?"
I was just trying to make a generalization that somone could understand cause they asked a question. If you wanna do specific genre-by genre breakdowns cause your so god damn smart and have the time then do so, otherwise I suggest you shut the hell up :)
"you're saying these whole genres are just completely ripped off other styles by making them faster."
Not exactly, but yeah. Music evolves from one form to another, im not saying they directly ripped it off, but when old breakbeat 'aardcore became much faster it evolved into "happy hardcore" cause it was happy and then got fast. Same thing with trancecore.
"BA$TARD.... A$$HOLE!"
Umm.. OK, whatever. You obviously have no idea what the fück you are talking about, and now you're swearing at me too? That's pretty funny.
"drugs is not the answer... drugs? is the question... yes is the answer"
Maybe you should cut back a bit, I think they are making you go retarded. Or maybe you were just retarded to start?
"Like trancecore is just trance at 170 BPM. Instead of 140 BPM. Etc...""If you believe this I've got some nice coastal real estate in Montana to sell you
-Lixx"
I don't believe it, I KNOW IT. And I have a ton of old trance vinyl to prove it. Just cause the only trance you ever heard was lame ass deep progressive garbage doesn't mean that trancecore didn't come from some other (good) type of harder trance. Both you newbs should keep your frigging mouths shut and learn a bit about the history of electronic music.
EDIT: WTF is wrong with all these newbie raver wannabes being so damn arrogant and pretentious. Did it ever occur to you that 2 years of scene experience might not be enough to make you the fücking kings of all knowledge that is rave? If you weren't there I strongly suggest you don't try and act like you were cause somone might just come along some day and break you and you'll just end up looking dumb...
EDIT2: Sorry I was so harsh in my response. I just ate lunch and calmed down. It's just kinda annoying when you state something that you know to be a fact and are just trying to help somone out and you get swears and ignroant responses back. I realize you may just not know and are acting on your assumptions ^_^
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Lixx
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Posted - 2002/07/27 : 14:13:13
My god. Listen to yourself. Look, it just doesn't make sense that slowly certain trance producers pushed the bpm's up higher and higher and finally they just decided it was fast enough to put core at the end. That doesn't make a single bit of sense. Freeform / Trancecore started when Sharkey and a few other hardcore producers were experimenting with different sounds and crossovers from others genres (such as trance) and bringing in new ideas into the studio to counter the influx of super happy pianoey tunes that flooded the scene. At first is was just a few experimental releases, but over time a distinct sub-genre of hardcore emerged. After a while they called it freeform to reflect the fact that it is experimental and not-limited to sounding trancy. The reason why I'm so adamant that freeform is not just trance at 170 bpm is because it's easy to pitch down your record and see that freeform at 140 bpm sounds nothing like trance. Now since many freeform produces also enjoy hard trance, acid techno, jungle, etc, you can hear these influences in the songs, but if you can honestly go over to the Nu Energy site and look at some freeform made in 2001/2002 and still say it's just sped up trance.. well.. there's really nothing to say after that. I surely hope you don't consider all those Raver Baby and Blatant Beats club trance-rips to be freeform either hahaha. I don't know why you doubt what I'm saying, because though I may not have the rave scene experience that you have, I sure as hell have studied and listened to a load more freeform and modern hardcore than you have. If you really think you are on to something with this theory that it all comes from sped up trance go head over to Nu Energy and see what Kevin Energy or Sharkey has to say about that. You'd think that the people who actually produce this stuff would be the authority on the topic but not everyone sees it that way..
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