DJ_FunDaBounce Advanced Member
Colombia
2,008 posts Joined: Nov, 2001
Posted - 2020/03/29 : 16:18:13
These are all great controllers, if you have the money.
Personally I'd go for the ddj800, perhaps as it's a huge step up from the one I have (wego), yet the least expensive of the bunch. I'd even go for a ddj400 as it's got something the wego doesn't: a gain knob on the mixer channels.
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trippnface Advanced Member
United States
1,656 posts Joined: Jan, 2010
Posted - 2020/03/29 : 17:30:22
Thanks for suggestions.
ok , after more research, I see that I don't want something that needs to a labtop to function, and would like something with both cd drives & usb ports.
MusicILove Advanced Member
United Kingdom
1,278 posts Joined: Mar, 2019
Posted - 2020/03/29 : 18:05:51
I have been trying to get to reply to this but my WiFi isn?t allowing me to access the forum. On 4G now. It depends on the features you want. For players with both CD drives and USB ports your options for new equipment are.
CDJ 350 https://www.pioneerdj.com/en-gb/product/player/cdj-350/black/overview/ This was released in 2009 along with the original CDJ 2000 & CDJ 900. It?s a good basic player it has looping and a loop cutter although the loops are not using beat grids. It has a BPM lock allowing you to set the BPM of each track without using the pitch slider.
Warning about large library?s. I found this and the CDJ 850 don?t handle over 1000 tracks very well and get slow.
CDJ 850 https://www.pioneerdj.com/en-gb/product/player/cdj-850/black/overview/ This was released in 2010 in response to the complaints about the price of the CDJ 900. It was designed to look and feel like the CDJ 800MK2 and was sold at a similar price. In 2012 the black model was released and is the only new model available today. It doesn?t have BPM lock or the loop cutter but it does have its own beat loops like the CDJ 800MK2 with the ability to change the modes to access smaller loops. It has the same high resolution pitch from the higher end players unlike the CDJ 800 MK2
Also this and the CDJ 350 can't do 100% pitch modes with digital files only on CD audio. They also don?t use beat grids just the Rekordbox BPM value. They also don?t have as accurate loops as the higher end players.
Released in 2013 It?s an upgrade to the CDJ 900. It lost the tilted display of the original and high end players but has most of the features of a CDJ 2000 Nexus. It is only missing Hot Cues. Instead it has an expanded beat loop section from the CDJ 850 / Original CDJ 900. Which Allows for slip rolls.
trippnface Advanced Member
United States
1,656 posts Joined: Jan, 2010
Posted - 2020/03/29 : 20:09:36
quote:Originally posted by MusicILove:
I have been trying to get to reply to this but my WiFi isn?t allowing me to access the forum. On 4G now. It depends on the features you want. For players with both CD drives and USB ports your options for new equipment are.
CDJ 350 https://www.pioneerdj.com/en-gb/product/player/cdj-350/black/overview/ This was released in 2009 along with the original CDJ 2000 & CDJ 900. It?s a good basic player it has looping and a loop cutter although the loops are not using beat grids. It has a BPM lock allowing you to set the BPM of each track without using the pitch slider.
Warning about large library?s. I found this and the CDJ 850 don?t handle over 1000 tracks very well and get slow.
CDJ 850 https://www.pioneerdj.com/en-gb/product/player/cdj-850/black/overview/ This was released in 2010 in response to the complaints about the price of the CDJ 900. It was designed to look and feel like the CDJ 800MK2 and was sold at a similar price. In 2012 the black model was released and is the only new model available today. It doesn?t have BPM lock or the loop cutter but it does have its own beat loops like the CDJ 800MK2 with the ability to change the modes to access smaller loops. It has the same high resolution pitch from the higher end players unlike the CDJ 800 MK2
Also this and the CDJ 350 can't do 100% pitch modes with digital files only on CD audio. They also don?t use beat grids just the Rekordbox BPM value. They also don?t have as accurate loops as the higher end players.
Released in 2013 It?s an upgrade to the CDJ 900. It lost the tilted display of the original and high end players but has most of the features of a CDJ 2000 Nexus. It is only missing Hot Cues. Instead it has an expanded beat loop section from the CDJ 850 / Original CDJ 900. Which Allows for slip rolls.
Some advice. Try looking at a Pioneer DJ authorised store. I wouldn?t necessarily trust the prices all the support of sellers and Amazon.
I know of only one in the US which is the DJ TechTools store.
If you have any questions feel free to ask. I can also advise on mixers :)
word, thanks man!
I suppose I would be willing to purchase middle of the road cdj's, i was leaning toward a controller until i learn to beat match, cuz id feel a bit ridiculous spending a couple thousand with basically zero experience or skill level lol. might be used for outdoor parties and such as well instead of a strictly home setup, and i'd prefer to not have to drag 2 seperate cdj's around & a mixer. Though I don't really want to purchase 2nd hand from someone i don't know, and all the new cdj's are expensive as hell.
Guess I will have to think on this one!
As far as mixers go, is a 4 channel really necessary? a competent dj should be able to have flawless transitions & possibly live mash up with 2 channels if he knows what he's doin, yeah?
I love the idea of that. When I saw the announcement I wanted one but the price. I feel it?s too much. I get the battery and portability but I would like to see it cheaper. Perhaps the 2nd generation will be cheaper.
This is in the same price range. It has everything you need to learn this is the lowest end system Pioneer DJ do. But it?s still very fully featured for the price. It only has 3 beat effects but it really depends on wether you like effects or if you plan to upgrade in the future when you want more. It?s still hardware so it will perform perfectly with no issues.
This is the highest end device Pioneer DJ make. It?s expensive but when you put it against the NXS2 setup price wise it?s great value.
Denon Dj have options but if you want to learn and create a music collection ready for the club one day you are best off with Pioneer DJ. You won?t find many Denon setups in clubs. Denon All In ones are popular with mobile DJs mostly.
I would always recommend buying new. Especially with what?s going on in the world. Also if you want it to last you want peace of mind that someone hasn?t already damaged it. And that your warranty will help you in the first year if you have any issues
Any of these devices will do you well and will make you very happy. I wish these options were around when I started. For that price when I started you got a CDJ 900 and that was it. :)
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MusicILove Advanced Member
United Kingdom
1,278 posts Joined: Mar, 2019
Posted - 2020/03/31 : 07:18:35
quote:Originally posted by trippnface:
thoughts on xdj 700 , personal experience or otherwise?
Def within my price range for 2, even brand new, and a reasonably priced mixer, under 2 grand.
If they suck, I would either go new with that denon mixer or the xdj rx2
They are good but they are a generation old. I wouldn't recommend getting them for the price they are. If you get something like the XDJ RX2 you will get more features and better file support.
AWal New Member
United States
66 posts Joined: May, 2010
Posted - 2020/03/31 : 07:24:12
quote:Originally posted by trippnface:
Another question, what's up with pioneer vs denon, any serious differences in price vs value?
As of the past few years Denon has been pushing for more innovation in the market, bringing the same or more features when compared to a similarly featured Pioneer product for less money.
Requiring CD in a standalone will bring the cost up, no matter how you look at it.
looks like the Pioneer standalone mixers that aren't a modular setup have already been covered.
If you are okay with ripping ahead of time and using USBs (or for some units, a hard drive), denon has a few options:
Prime 4
Prime 2
Prime GO
MCX8000
Prime 4 is the big daddy, and gives you four channels to mix, with two internal players and two zone outputs (your master mix, and a seperate zone if you want to pipe a playlist to a different room)
Prime 2 is very similar to the Prime 4, but with a reduced feature set (notably, less mixer channels and no seperate zone output)
Prime GO is similar to the Prime 2 in more ways than would be expected, with the perk of it having a built-in rechargeable battery.
MCX8000 was the first Prime player to come to market. It's built-in playback is similar to a pair of basic modular players, but with a four track mixer that can still take outside inputs, and supports on-the-fly and hybrid switching between the built-in players, a PC, or Line/Phono-in sources.
I would say I'm not biased towards Denon, but I've had this MCX8000 for a while now, which doesn't help....Also AMA if you can't find something out about the MCX8000.
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