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michael_mansion
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 Posted - 2007/12/10 : 22:01:54
Ok,
So it seems like people are against having the choice of vocal packs to pick from, due to the fact that this could screw with final evaluations of remixes...
But...since the start time for this comp is not until Jan 1st...would anybody be opposed to voting on what vocals are better for the comp (about a week b4 the competition starts)???
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novaboy
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Posted - 2007/12/10 : 22:30:38
i think there should be a sample pack ...
... its a good way to measure production creativity,just make sure its not too small.
a midi would be great, but i could still find progressions and key without, but it would save alot of time, it hink the midi is a great idea.
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redwingz
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Posted - 2007/12/10 : 22:31:31
im against sample packs. if we are all using the same lyrics then we shud get to choose or own sounds, rather than every1 using the same pack and same lyrics
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novaboy
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Posted - 2007/12/10 : 22:44:38
quote:
Originally posted by redwingz:
im against sample packs. if we are all using the same lyrics then we shud get to choose or own sounds, rather than every1 using the same pack and same lyrics
i dont mean having synths, basses, pads, fx , whatever in the sample packs
just meaning drums and perc,break loops which we can utilise ourselves.
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ruroken
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Posted - 2007/12/10 : 22:48:18
I like the idea of getting a sample pack but not being limited to that. It's a place to start from at the very least. And I wouldn't mind voting on vocals before the production starts.
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novaboy
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Posted - 2007/12/10 : 22:49:33
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Originally posted by ruroken:
I like the idea of getting a sample pack but not being limited to that. It's a place to start from at the very least. And I wouldn't mind voting on vocals before the production starts.
yeah i wont mind if we dont use one
just suggesting a simple option.
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Jax
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Posted - 2007/12/10 : 22:56:54
i wont be taking part but i think it would be better for everyone to use the same vocals and make the rest up themselves from there. if midi's and sample packs are supplied for those that need them that could help get more people involved but i think it would help creativity if people were allowed to use anything they wanted apart from the vocals
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michael_mansion
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Posted - 2007/12/10 : 23:38:18
OK,
So the consensus is...there will be a sample pack of some kind to be supplied the night b4 the competition. Novice producers will benefit from having good quality sounds at their fingertips, while more-experienced producers can venture off and use their own. That sounds fair if you ask me....Somebody will put together a remix pack by New Year's Eve.
...You can bet on that. We got time. No worries.
Back to Vocals...does anyone object to having a ballot to vote on two separate vocal packs a week b4 the competition starts? This would provide more freedom in deciding what song the majority of people on here decide is best for the competition.
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Ionosphere
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Posted - 2007/12/10 : 23:38:31
quote:
Originally posted by michael_mansion:
But...since the start time for this comp is not until Jan 1st...would anybody be opposed to voting on what vocals are better for the comp (about a week b4 the competition starts)???
That's not a bad idea because what if everyone thinks that the vocals we're doing are
a load of old pants?  ....?
and also,
what a waste of time it will have been doing them in the first place....?
That's why I reckon that all those that can do the vocals should offer them and let people choose the one's they want.
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michael_mansion
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Posted - 2007/12/11 : 00:38:44
quote:
Originally posted by Ionosphere:
quote:
Originally posted by michael_mansion:
But...since the start time for this comp is not until Jan 1st...would anybody be opposed to voting on what vocals are better for the comp (about a week b4 the competition starts)???
That's not a bad idea because what if everyone thinks that the vocals we're doing are
a load of old pants? ....?
and also,
what a waste of time it will have been doing them in the first place....?
That's why I reckon that all those that can do the vocals should offer them and let people choose the one's they want.
Yeah. So maybe a deadline of Christmas Day for the vocals is good for a week-long voting period b4 the competition starts?
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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2007/12/11 : 01:15:43
I think people being able to use completely different vocals would take the point out of it, because there is no comparison then, and the vocals would be the basis for comparison, so without everyone using the same vocals it would be very difficult to judge. It confuses me that anyone would even think of that to begin with :P
I'm not implying that Ionosphere or Michael Mansion said this is the way it should be done by the way, but there is a few who seem to have mentioned that idea from what ive read.
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ruroken
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Posted - 2007/12/11 : 08:16:42
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
I think people being able to use completely different vocals would take the point out of it, because there is no comparison then, and the vocals would be the basis for comparison, so without everyone using the same vocals it would be very difficult to judge. It confuses me that anyone would even think of that to begin with :P
I'm not implying that Ionosphere or Michael Mansion said this is the way it should be done by the way, but there is a few who seem to have mentioned that idea from what ive read.
The point of multiple vocals is that we make a poll on which one the competition will be based on before it starts. That way everyone will be using the same vocals but will have voted on which to use before hand.
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bulby_g
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Posted - 2007/12/11 : 09:48:42
If those who are willing to make vocals are happy to have a vote then that's great. Should really be left up to you really as you're the people doing all the work!
Think it's best you demonstrate the vocals with other sound clips over the top or something so if yours aren't used they can't be stolen by someone?
Sounds like the sample pack but not being restricted to it is the way to go then. Who wants to sort this? Hard2Get, you OK for doing this? :)
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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2007/12/11 : 16:37:33
Totally!
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Posted - 2007/12/11 : 17:30:42
I will jion, cant be worse then the last track I posted on here that nite I was drunk >.>
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